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 Is non matching numbers common on Swiss Pinz's? 
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Post Is non matching numbers common on Swiss Pinz's?
Hi,

I've recently noticed that my engine is non numbers matching to my 72 710m tub. Did the Swiss change them out rather than rebuild? Maybe this was common practice, or is mine an unusual situation?
Just curious mostly, but was a bit surprised.

thanks, Dave

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Wed May 10, 2017 10:52 am
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Post Re: Is non matching numbers common on Swiss Pinz's?
When the Swiss refurbished trucks in the '90s, parts didn't always go back to the original truck..My '71 710m had a driver's door with a different dataplate than the body's plate. So it is possible a body could be put on another chassis

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Post Re: Is non matching numbers common on Swiss Pinz's?
From what I've been told, this is a problem common to former military vehicles of most varieties, including U.S. Whether because a part has been robbed off a scrapped vehicle or one awaiting parts, or simply from installation of factory replacement parts, it seems to be pretty normal.

The reason it doesn't happen so much in the civilian world is probably because it's rare to have multiple versions of the exact same vehicle being serviced together. Even the colors match! Plus, your average civilian owner would call the cops.

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Post Re: Is non matching numbers common on Swiss Pinz's?
Thanks for the reply's, sounds reasonable. My truck was redone in the 90's so that'll be what happened.

Dave

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Post Re: Is non matching numbers common on Swiss Pinz's?
I don't know the legal status in the US but in Europe the VIN has to be engraved or stamped into the chassis. Any label like the metal plate next to the driver's seat is just meant to make the number easily spottable. If there are discrepancies the VIN on the frame is considered valid.

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Post Re: Is non matching numbers common on Swiss Pinz's?
Hotzenplotz wrote:
I don't know the legal status in the US but in Europe the VIN has to be engraved or stamped into the chassis. Any label like the metal plate next to the driver's seat is just meant to make the number easily spottable. If there are discrepancies the VIN on the frame is considered valid.


Where is it on a Pinz?

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Mon May 15, 2017 8:13 am
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Post Re: Is non matching numbers common on Swiss Pinz's?
i have a 712. it has the chassis number on the main tube, between 2nd and 3rd axle.
guess it will be similar with a 710

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Post Re: Is non matching numbers common on Swiss Pinz's?
Never seen it but have not looked either
Will check tonight
Thx

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Post Re: Is non matching numbers common on Swiss Pinz's?
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i have a 712. it has the chassis number on the main tube, between 2nd and 3rd axle.
On my 712 it is on the driver's side, hidden behind the exhaust shield. It is a removable part (once the chassis is disassembled!) unlike a typical frame stamp. In California, they only require two separate matching VIN numbers so they only needed to look at the door and floor plates!

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