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Jack Russell Racing wrote:I'm not sure I even understand why a 12v winch would be desired? Are they cheaper than 24v? I don't know.

For me, a WARN XD9000 was the right choice. Fits right. Easy to install, and strong enough to pull Paraguay out of South America.

12v models are more common and often less expensive than a 24v winch. The Chinese harbor freight 12v models are cheap, I've seen it written on the internet that some people use the 12v units hooked to 24v, not something I would do for many reasons.

Thanks for pointing out the problem. I got out the meter and tested the posts today. I was mislead. The 2 posts are not separate. Definitely a no go! Thought it seemed too good to be true.

Jack Russell Racing wrote:I'm not sure I even understand why a 12v winch would be desired? Are they cheaper than 24v? I don't know.

From the other "winch thread":

dadnova wrote:I already have a 10K winch that is 12 volts.

The proverbial bird-in-hand...

Jack Russell Racing wrote:I'm not sure I even understand why a 12v winch would be desired? Are they cheaper than 24v? I don't know.

For me, a WARN XD9000 was the right choice. Fits right. Easy to install, and strong enough to pull Paraguay out of South America.

i swear to God if you try to pull Paraguay out of South America. i will buy 2 WARN M15000 12volt,connect one to each batt on my pinz to hold it in place!!

Whatever anyone does, stay away from the $299 Chinese crap winches. Many have shorted right out of the box and never even turned one revolution. It's the last tool to get a cheap version of. Consider yours and others safety. (Superwinch is my personal favorite)

waterdog wrote:

Jack Russell Racing wrote:I'm not sure I even understand why a 12v winch would be desired? Are they cheaper than 24v? I don't know.

For me, a WARN XD9000 was the right choice. Fits right. Easy to install, and strong enough to pull Paraguay out of South America.

i swear to God if you try to pull Paraguay out of South America. i will buy 2 WARN M15000 12volt,connect one to each batt on my pinz to hold it in place!!

Yes, but think of the epic Pinzgauer image! Me, pulling toward Brazil and you pulling toward Argentina. WARN would probably select us for worldwide advertising.

Don't worry, Paraguay is safe.







(for the moment).

VinceAtReal4x4s wrote:Whatever anyone does, stay away from the $299 Chinese crap winches. Many have shorted right out of the box and never even turned one revolution. It's the last tool to get a cheap version of. Consider yours and others safety. (Superwinch is my personal favorite)

My HF 12000 winch on my f250 has beem used at least once a month over the last 3 year's for some serious pulling. @ $400 I'm VERY pleased!

audiocontr wrote:

VinceAtReal4x4s wrote:Whatever anyone does, stay away from the $299 Chinese crap winches. Many have shorted right out of the box and never even turned one revolution. It's the last tool to get a cheap version of. Consider yours and others safety. (Superwinch is my personal favorite)

My HF 12000 winch on my f250 has beem used at least once a month over the last 3 year's for some serious pulling. @ $400 I'm VERY pleased!

Consider yourself lucky. I know of an HF winch specifically that melted its plastic brush housings after one use.

If I recall correctly, the big winch test that Fourwheeler magazine did had a HF and "Kodiak" winch in it. They weren't able to list the test results on those because both broke or didn't work out of the box. Good ole Chinese quality control.

I think most (like computers) have major parts made in China but at least the better ones are American controlled and/or assembled/inspected.

Anyone wanting to roll the dice, 12000lb Badlands winch at harbour freight is on sale for $299 this week. I've actually seen it for less....which is something that scares me, since the last one I purchased (T-Maxx, 9000 lb.) was triple that price...... I don't have the experience to judge the HB product, but pricing that low tells me that quality control has to take a hit. As has been posted, some will get a good one, some won't. Not sure I want to find out when I'm stuck!

tx Dave

Thats the exact one ive used for a couple years now. I love it!

Our experience in Aust is that the basic construction of the cheap chinese winches is good enough but the quality control and lubricants are not.

The trick is that when you get one is to strip it down and reassemble - use proper brand name grease not the soap they have in them, tighten all fastenings with thread locker and put sealant on the joints. Controller boxes are not good so carry a spare brand name and change when the original fails - after that they are reliable and work well.

Garry

Pot metal.


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VinceAtReal4x4s wrote:Pot metal.

Had to google that one, informative write up on Wikipedia. Always knew it as white metal, but didn't understand why it was so weak.....now I do!

Thanks!

All of this is just so ridiculous. Stop trying to cheap out and just buy a 24V winch.

krick3tt wrote:All of this is just so ridiculous. Stop trying to cheap out and just buy a 24V winch.

Amen! Court adjourned.