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I apologize if this topic has been discussed. I did some searching through the threads and did not see anything. I have a 712M and was curious what people without the eberspanker heater are doing as an optional heat source for their rigs. I recently did some winter wheeling and needed hand and feet warmers to get through the day. Looking for some option. I would prefer a 24VDC set-up with gas or diesel.

Thoughts?

Not exactly what you're looking for, but I use of of these "Little Buddy" heaters when I sleep in the back of my 710K.
Absolutely quiet, and puts out a bunch of heat.

Look here viewtopic.php?f=18&t=5085&hilit=esp%2A+heater

Another option is electric clothing, I've used electric vests for many years for cold weather motorcycling. Low power draw, some of the current (pun intended) clothing are equipped with replaceable battery packs. The ones I have experience with plug into the vehicle, need 12 volts and operate on under 50 watts.

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/871 ... cket-Liner

http://www.jafrum.com/Heated-Motorcycle-Clothing

Pinzi33

If you have the money, get a modern diesel or gas heater.

Some suggestions to help get warmer
1. Seal the rear flap that covers the divider screen (cab to cargo area) as well as you can.
Unless you are trying to heat the rear, too much heat is needed for that volume.

2. Make sure that the cab weather stripping is doing it's job.

3. Make sure that the exhaust heater ducting does not have leaks and insulating it will help. [b]Exhaust heat[/b] works pretty well for me down to about 20 F. as long as you don't go downhill for too long. (like an old vw bus ...keeps you warm going up and cools you off going down)

4. Wear better cold weather clothing.
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If you want to try a Mil-Surplus heater there are some still around (new in box,
Deuce and a half Arctic heater).

Check out Jim LaGuardia's link below;

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Goatwer ... t=4&page=1

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I am using a Benmar multi-fuel Artic heater in my 712, very happy with it.

I recently picked up a couple of these to try out:
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-12-V ... at+cushion They are 12V so you would need a 24-12 convertor. They work pretty well - not a huge amount of heat but definitely helps.
Or you could go this route:
http://www.sportsimportsltd.com/24v-or- ... s-kit.html
They also have a lot of other options and 24V items.

I have been looking at these (have no experience with them) 2 models (note they are 12v and propane so you would have to carry a tank - I would just have a few of the small bottles and you need a 12v converter)
6500BTU 12.5 x 7 x 4" $780.00
http://store.adventuretrailers.com/prod ... S2000.html

9500BTU 16.5 x 8.5 x 5" $920.00
http://store.adventuretrailers.com/prod ... S2800.html

They made up a portable one (kit is really expensive) but you could easily build one out of a tool box
Would be handy to move it from Pinz to tent to storage in the summer
http://store.adventuretrailers.com/prod ... Y-Kit.html EDIT: just found a source that says they come in 24v too

Those look interesting. Wonder what the run time is on a small propane bottle.


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Pinzi73 wrote:Those look interesting. Wonder what the run time is on a small propane bottle.

Consumption of propane running continuously:

HS2000 at 6483 BTU, 3.2 hours on 1 lb. of propane.

HS2800 at 9554 BTU, 2.0 hours on 1 lb. of propane

So if it is not at full heat and running off the thermostat you should be able to get roughly 9+ hours

Looks pretty efficient


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I have a Webasto, wasn't real content at first till I learned the quirks. Keep the cab flap down in winter. Insulate the heater hoses from the exchanger to the cab, really helps.
I use the Webasto to warm the cab till I have been driving awhile then use the in-cab heat from the exchanger.
Sometimes at 10 to 20 degrees I have to open a window to cool down or open the vent at the front to draw in a bit of cool air with the in-cab heat on.
I also have a canvas cover for the grille if I am just going around town as the engine never gets to temp on short runs.
I have the Little Buddy also for a bit of heat in the back area when camping. Also use a moving blanket between the sides and the canvas for a bit of insulation. Still the pinz
is a sieve as far as letting in air.

I agree with Morris,
Get an insulated top and a Webasto-type 12v gasoline heater.

My 712 can be turned into a Swedish sauna during winter snow rides in the Cascades.
With the flexable blower hose, I can defrost the windshield, heat the back
or warm up and dry out the distributor (when I had one!). Yours and your passenger's feet will be warm. and you're wet- duck-hunting
dogs in the back will love you in January.


Fits behind the driver's seat like it was made for it. Uses just the gas already in your tank (about 1 gallon/day
of continuous use)

Got mine from Linden Engineering and installed by Goatwerks. Installation and placement of the pump is key.
Ebay has some Webasto, Espar and other brands.

Futzy at first, yes, but when you get to know it's quirks, it works great.
(Just don't shut it off and on via the invertor switch, but use the
thermostat to let the computer go through it's cool down cycle.)

Thanks. Good info.


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Check here for 24V stuff...some heaters too.

http://www.24voltproducts.com/

also check for stuff here...

http://www.mpja.com/

Happy trails

New old stock multifuel benmars. Full kit is $750 and its made for 24v. I run diesel through mine. You an run gas of you like.

Is there a site selling the new old stock? Link?


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