water fording and snorkel

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water fording and snorkel

Post by norcal pinz » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:23 pm

can you guys with snorkels do an update if you have any new info and pictures ? much appreciated i want to consider this on my 710m thanks guys.
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Re: water fording and snorkel

Post by bernhard » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:34 pm

Here are a few picture of what I did. Ill try to take some shots on how I ran the hose from the engine bay up and out. I used 2 ¾ id high temp hose from mcmaster part # 5499K245. I had to make a reducer sleeve at the junction where it meets the 62mm air filter inlet at the filter housing. The hose ended up exactly 5 feet long.

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Photo Jun 16, 6 15 10 PM by bernhard Leitner, on Flickr

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Photo Jun 16, 5 31 46 PM by bernhard Leitner, on Flickr

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Photo Jun 16, 6 03 38 PM by bernhard Leitner, on Flickr
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Re: water fording and snorkel

Post by krick3tt » Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:50 pm

Check out Prof Pinz in the land down under. He has an excellent snorkel and the arrangement looks to be
a first class job.
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Re: water fording and snorkel

Post by bernhard » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:08 pm

Here are a few more pics. I don’t have any of what it looks like inside the dog house but the filter housing is in the exact same location. The hose connects directly to the intake with the hot air mixer removed.

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Photo Jul 25, 4 43 03 PM by bernhard Leitner, on Flickr

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Photo Jul 25, 4 42 42 PM by bernhard Leitner, on Flickr

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Photo Jul 25, 4 42 33 PM by bernhard Leitner, on Flickr

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Photo Jul 25, 4 41 49 PM by bernhard Leitner, on Flickr
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Re: water fording and snorkel

Post by undysworld » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:58 pm

Bernhard,
Where did you get the black grill/plenum parts?
Thanks,
Paul

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Re: water fording and snorkel

Post by bernhard » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:29 pm

I made that part. Unfortunately they are cost prohibitive to produce so I only made 2 sets. At one point in time the factory TD inlet was available for sale but have had no luck tracking it down.
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Re: water fording and snorkel

Post by undysworld » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:17 am

Well, you sure made them look nice!

I had found the Steyr part numbers in another post, and wondered whether yours were factory and maybe available. Nicely done.

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Re: water fording and snorkel

Post by norcal pinz » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:34 pm

:D :D :D WOW thats awesome ! great design thanks for posting.
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Re: water fording and snorkel

Post by McCall Pinz » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:20 pm

I have the factory TD snorkel and Bernhard's looks like the better solution. They were available through Gut automobile for about $200 a few years ago, but with the swiss franc going up its probably about $300 if you can find an original one. The factory snorkel runs toward the rear, down the side, and then turns and goes through the firewall. The stock airfilter is turned 180 degrees and the thermostat removed. I haven't figured out how (or if) to reinstall the cargo grill behind the passenger with it. You can see it the thread about "show me your box"
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Re: water fording and snorkel

Post by wrangler0511 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:51 pm

@bernhard:

just be careful with this type of hose. If it rubs anywhere it won't take too long to fail. And believe me it does rub at least on the air
filter housing or on the Platform itself.
I did it the same way you did. The problem is that you will not find out it failed till you are in deep water.
Now don't ask me how I found out.


For the others:

Here is the original TD snorkel. I didn't use it because my cargo grill was in the way and I didn't want to remove it.

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This is what I came out for my 710m. Left is the original Austrian Army Antenna Base. On the right side of the vehicle you can see
the Snorkel. At least I didn't have to cut new holes into the roll bar.

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Re: water fording and snorkel

Post by audiocontr » Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:25 am

First thing i notice are the door handles. :D Have difficulties closing the door without them?

Nice work on the snorkel! very jealous!
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Re: water fording and snorkel

Post by edzz » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:09 am

audiocontr wrote:First thing i notice are the door handles. :D Have difficulties closing the door without them?

Nice work on the snorkel! very jealous!
Some of us have notched the window frame for the door handles so the door tops can be removed without first having to remove the door handles.
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Re: water fording and snorkel

Post by audiocontr » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:03 pm

which i will now do as well!!!!
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Re: water fording and snorkel

Post by David Dunn » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:17 pm

edzz wrote: Some of us have notched the window frame for the door handles so the door tops can be removed without first having to remove the door handles.
The bend is part of the structural rigidity of the door upper. Notching it makes the upper weaker than they already were. SDP had added a radius to the window corners to try to combat the sheetmetal from tearing there.
SDP revamped the uppers entirely on the TDs, using extruded aluminum for the frame and heavy steel angles for the corners and attachment to the door lowers

I used t nuts on my old 710 and 712 to attach the handles to the uppers ( and they came off with the windows)...the whole top edge of the door can serve as a handle.... unless you're afraid of putting fingerprints on your pristine paint :wink:
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Re: water fording and snorkel

Post by edzz » Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:35 pm

David, I never said anything about cutting into the radius. Honestly don’t believe cleanly notching for the door handles has any detrimental effect on the structural integrity of the upper door halves. Mind you I only have ~20 years in aerospace structural manufacturing, refit and repair. I will agree that if the notches not done properly you would be creating potential problems, remove a minimum of metal and radius corners of notches.
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