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Atv tires on stock rims?

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:23 pm
by audiocontr
What are your thoughts of these tires on stock haffie rims? $30 plus shipping? https://www.amazon.com/ITP-Mayhem-Terra ... B00RK3EJSO

Re: Atv tires on stock rims?

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:07 pm
by rmel
Don't know about mounting, but that tread looks creepy -- like it belongs on the Aliens (the movie) set :roll:

Re: Atv tires on stock rims?

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:45 am
by Heinkeljb
Is a stock rim wide enough for them to fit correctly? What sort of diameter overall? Could make a significant difference to either Top speed or to torque available if they are very different in overall diameter.

Maybe buy one and try?

John

Re: Atv tires on stock rims?

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:53 am
by Haf-e
23" x 8" atv tires are commonly used on Japanese mini trucks with 3.5" narrow 12 inch rims.that come on these trucks. I have a friend's subaru sambar van at my shop that will be getting some soon.



Only concern is the ply rating and weight capacity - some are very low. Don't see either listed - but I am looking on my phone and perhaps the full chart didn't load.

Don't see a price of $30 a tire on Amazon - did it get changed?

There are some good deals on 5.00-12 and 6-12 tractor tires with a R-1 chevron tread - both are 23" tall and designed for 3.5 inch rims. Just keep in mind that 5-12's are smaller (21") and 6.00-12 are taller (25") - they are two different measurement systems with very similar designations.

Re: Atv tires on stock rims?

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:18 am
by Haf-e
These are 6-12 carlise super lug tires on haffy wheels.

Re: Atv tires on stock rims?

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:15 am
by TechMOGogy
They should fit but would have a large sidewall bulge.
I would be more worried about the load rating but if your just using them off-road, probably not a big issue due to low speeds

Re: Atv tires on stock rims?

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:16 am
by audiocontr
I have a friend at Carlisle who is about to dump these all on ebay. Offered em up to a smaller team first. Interested?

Its about $45/tire shipped

Re: Atv tires on stock rims?

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:31 pm
by Haf-e
I would go for at least a set of 6. Maybe more if I check with a friend also.

Let me know.

Re: Atv tires on stock rims?

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:02 pm
by audiocontr
no problem. im going to grab 5. He said to let him know when you know total quantity and location.

An old high school friend works there in charge of the ecommerce platform there. I'm happy to put you in touch with him directly. email me for info

my username at gmail.

Re: Atv tires on stock rims?

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:03 am
by Haf-e
Great - sending you a message via email. Going to try to see if they fit on the Subaru Sambar - if not then they will go on my Haflinger.

Re: Atv tires on stock rims?

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:37 am
by audiocontr

Re: Atv tires on stock rims?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:50 am
by jhon
I've used 23x8x12" ATV tyres on my Haflinger rims for some time now; they will fit on the standard 3.5" width and work well in most off-road conditions, with the exception of side slopes. I found that the tyre wanted to 'tuck-under' (i.e. roll around the vertical axis), as the rim was not wide enough to support the tyre sidewall properly.

To combat this I had the rims banded to 6.5" and this had a huge effect - it feels a lot more planted and stable on side-slopes now - worth considering if you drive this type of terrain.

Oh, and FWIW - they're horrible on the road.

3.5" rim
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6.5" rim
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Re: Atv tires on stock rims?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:54 am
by Haf-e
Thanks for the input - I wonder what the "ply" rating is of the tires you have are? or the load rating of them? Some of the ATV tires are very low - especially in the narrow sizes on 12" rims as they expect them to be on the front of a light ATV.

I am considering adding a set of 12 inch weld-on beadlocks to a set of rims I have for use with the ATV tires - that would add to the width and might reduce the tucking in on side slopes some.

I just ordered six of the ITP Mayhem tires - will report back once I get them. They say they are "6 ply" but I haven't found a weight capacity rating for them yet.

Here is a link to the weld-on beadlock kit I am considering using - they say they offer them in 12inch sizes - it includes spacers to center the tire and allow better torquing of the bolts:

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http://www.mayhemmetalworks.com

Re: Atv tires on stock rims?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:40 pm
by Haf-e
Finally got an answer on the specs on these 24x8x12 ITP Mayhem tires:

Rated Pressure 7 psi / 48 kPa
Rated Load 310 lbs / 141 kg
Rated Speed 50 mph / 80.5 km/h

So that is lower rating than I hoped... hummmm

Re: Atv tires on stock rims?

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:07 pm
by TechMOGogy
Yeah - shame the load rating is that low
If you just using for off-road then they may still work?