Tire Size

[jacksonpinz]

Once again, I am sure this has been covered, but what is the correct tire size to replace original sized tires? I want to be as close to the original tire size as possible. Thanks.

[Oberon]

I put new tires on my Pinz in September a couple of weeks after I bought it. I put BfG mud terrains on, size 235/85-16 which ends up being 31 3/4" tall and 9 1/4" wide. They look great, close to the originals(tall and skinny) That was about as close as I could find. They ride great on the street(better than the stock Maloyas) and are agressive enough for off road.
Hope this helps
Spence

[jacksonpinz]

Thanks, that is what Cold War Remarketing said as well. I was going to go with a pair of 255, but I have lost about 18% of my horsepower due to altitude and did not want the engine to have to work any harder turning bigger rubber. Do you have a pic of your Pinz with the Mud TA's on it. I was thinking the same tire and would love to see how they look mounted on a Pinz. The Mud TA get great reviews from about everyone who runs them.

[Oberon]

If you send me a PM with your email I will send you a couple of pics.

[Twebba]

I have the BFG Mud Terrain's in the 255/85-16 and absolutely love 'em.
Compared to the Maloya's... well... there's really no comparison!

They have an aggressive tread for off-roading, but don't add as much noise as I was expecting. But then again, the truck makes enough noise on it's own that any extra noise just blends in.

I haven't noticed a huge drop in power by running the bigger tires - even at high altitude. Then again, I've just learned to accept that I'm always the slowest truck on the road and have grown accustomed to waving at everybody as they pass.

Good luck on your selection. Anything is better than the Maloya's, so you'll be happy with anything you get to replace 'em.

Happy shopping!

[Profpinz]

255-85 BFG MT's are a good replacement for the original Pinny tyres and an excellent choice if you want good road handling with minimal noise.

They are also good for mild off road use, but I found they clogged very easily with mud in severe conditions due to the fact that the Pinny just hasn't got enough hp to spin the tyres to clean the treads (especially in the 712) ... I also found them to be "wanting" in rutted, slippery conditions where tyre edge traction is really required!

If you want to do hard 4WDriving then go with Swampers, ET's etc, but if you want good road handling / "manners" and a mild off road tyre then I reckon you can't beat BFG MT's.

[mjnims]

recently switched from Trxxus MT's to the Mickey Thompson MTZ's. They are only rated 8 py compared to the Trxxus 10 ply but they are a bit quieter on the road and seem to do just as well offroad. The price is about the same but availability is much better. I was looking to get 8 Trxxs and Interco told me 2 months and no guarantee of delivery, that was just not acceptable.

As has been stated above anything is better than the Maloya's.

[jacksonpinz]

Thanks for the info. I will be using my Pinz for off roading, but more for recreational camping in Wyomings back country. I am sure I will get the itch to see what the capabilities of my 712 are and want to be prepared. So, the general consesus is that the 255 are a better size than the stock 235's? Would my 712 be able to spin the 235 faster, thus cleaning off the lugs better than a 255 or is there not that much difference?

[pinzwheeling]

LOL... spinning tires in a Pinz.

[jacksonpinz]

Pinz will be here tommorrow. Have never driven one so I have no idea how it handles. Sorry.

[Kiwibru]

What? No test drive? You are in for a big surprise. Cool but retro, sure footed but noisy...I could go on but I don't want to spoil your first experience.

[todds112]

I've got 285 75 r16's Goodyear MTR's (33's) on my Jeep Rubicon. They are great off-road, but really suck on hardpacked or icy roads. Dont know if you noticed when you looked at mine but it has Super Swamper LTB's. (34x10.5). They SUCK on hard snow and ice too. They should be really good in mud and on rocks, especially 6 of them!

I'm still a Pinz newb of course, but after years of Jeep experience, I am thinking that extra axle will make a hugh difference in how aggressive a tire you really need. When I need new shoes. I'll look hard at BFG's, either MT's ot AT's.

[Profpinz]

I am thinking that extra axle will make a hugh difference in how aggressive a tire you really need. When I need new shoes. I'll look hard at BFG's, either MT's ot AT's.

As regards the two extra wheels on a 712..... It doesn't quite work the way that most people think .... that is that they give you another 50% traction....I believe the middle set do 60-80% of the work most of the time!
That's not to say that I wouldn't ALWAYS take a 6 over a 4 and that's from someone who also owns a 4X4 Pinny as well!
BTW: The middle tyres ALWAY wear before the rears on a 712.

As regards tyres, I've run a variety of tyres on mine over the last 11 years
Originally I fitted a new set of Semperit's .... the original tyre for most Pinzgauers that came directly from the factory (Vehicles that are not ex Swiss Military vehicles)
Then I went to a new set of 255-85 BFG MT's.
Next I fitted a secondhand set of 9-34" Swampers, then a brand new set of those same tyres.
The current tyres are Simex Extreme Trekers (ET's) 35-10.5X16

In my opinon (and that's all it is a personal opinion)

* The BFG's were the best road tyre of the lot and if I was doing long distances on the road that's what I would fit (as a matter of fact I am thinking of buying another set, if I can find 4 more wheels for interstate trips) but they are a mild off road tyre at best....especially in mud!
All the above said I must say, that a couple of the Pinny owners in NSW who do mainly rock climbing believe the MT's are the best tyres for the Pinny's but they have a lot of sandstone up there....It's wierd rock that you can walk on quite happily even if it's at 45 degrees, even in the rain .... the grip is akin to really rough sandpaper.
In Victoria we have a lot of granite and bassalt which after a bit of moss and clay gets on it is like trying to grip greasy glass....Horses for courses.
BTW Many guys in OZ prefer the MT to the AT as a road tyre....go figure!

* Swampers and ET's are brilliant in severe off road conditions and I would hate to have to live off the difference between them but are "not so good" on road..... noisey, can be a bit of a handful on wet / icy roads and wear like the proverbial on bitumen (I'II be lucky to get 15,000 KM out of this current set)

* Semperits ....Hmm....OK on road, OK off-road.
The main problem is they are too hard....sidewalls and tread (they may have been stored for a while when I brought them) but even aired-down they still won't bag so off road traction is limited.
I daresay if you wanted to transport a full 1.5 tonne payload across rough stoney ground and didn't want to get flats as well as cut the tyres to pieces they may be the way to go!

[springhill]

FWIW---If you decide on 235-85-16, I would recommend the Toyo M-55.
They are pricey--last set cost about 190 a tire ( very high for 235 ).
They are quiet on the hiway and have excellent grip in all weather. That is all I run on the ranch pickups---Two pinz's still have Maloya and the third has the 285 TRUX's.
I hardly ever get flats with the Toyo's and they last about 15,000 to 20,000 miles. They would probably last longer, but I pull horse trailers alot, which caused excess wear.
I have tried cheaper tires and for that reason I can justify the extra cost.
Also, if you plan on airing down offroad--I wouldn't go with a 235.

john

[PinzEOD]

I recently switched from Dunlop Mud Terrain, 255-85R16, to Bridgestone Dueler A/Ts, 265-75R16. I did lose some top end speed, but around town and on the trail the difference seems marginal. They've performed excellent so far in the sand and rocks we have around here. Mud and snow are pretty scarce around Vegas.