Stuck Choke and Gas pedal

LibTimothy · Post by **LibTimothy** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:37 pm

I jumped into the Pinz last night and found that I could not move the choke lever. The gas pedal was also not moving. I removed the service panel and fiddled around with the linkage (At least I think I fiddled with it, it was pretty dark). Now the choke is stuck halfway out and the gas pedal was half way down. And I still can't start it.

Now it was cold out (about 14 degrees) (felt like the inside of a cryogenic chamber) but I have run her this cold before.

I will have time and (hopefully) warmer weather on Saturday to pull the cover and look at all the linkages. All I need to know is..... What am I looking for? Could it be just too cold? (Say it ain't so!)

Thanks in advance!

Timothy
'74 712M

Kiwibru · Post by **Kiwibru** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:21 pm

Just a poke in the dark here...
Have you made sure the manual throttle pull lever is not in locked condition? There are oil/lube access ports on the cables so you could squirt some nice thin lube into them as a second attempt to free them...assuming they are frozen up.
I will now turn on the lights...

75pinz · Post by **75pinz** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:02 pm

14 sounds balmy...High of -8 here yesterday. I know my northern friends will be even colder.

LibTimothy · Post by **LibTimothy** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:55 am

I'm not trying to get into a colder-than-thou contest here. At least not with Alaskans on the board. It was just colder than normal (as if ANYTHING were NOrmal in NY) and I was wondered if that could be a factor.

I was hoping it would warm up to freezing today (holy cow! I'm nuts for living here! Will I ever be warm again?) so I can get the covers of and see if I can spot something simple.

So let me confess my sins here..... I have only owned the Pinz since November and it's been so cold out (since August) that I have not pulled off the engine cover yet. I don't know what the enging looks like. I was hoping to go without problems until spring time (July).

So, sins confessed, what should the throttle linkage look like? Could I just have ice frozen on something? Is there a common broken something? Should I take pictures of what I have (once it warms up to freezing). This problem happened suddenly. One day it worked fine, the next not. The manual throttle is not locked. I can pull it and it moves until I reach the point the gas pedal is stuck at. I'll look at lubing the linkage. Again, I was hoping I was just iced up somewhere rather than broken.

I did buy the parts and repair manuals, so I have pictures I can look at to see what the linkage is suppose to look like. But I'm having trouble finding a clear picture of the linkage. I might be on the wrong page in the manual.

Thanks again for all the advice and help.

Timothy

Profpinz · Post by **Profpinz** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:33 pm

I'm not trying to get into a colder-than-thou contest here. At least not with Alaskans on the board.

Hmm, If I can find someone on the Forum with a temp of more than 37C (99F) I may still be in the running!

andy · Post by **andy** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:54 pm

Peter, would that be right now or in a couple of months?

Andy

LibTimothy · Post by **LibTimothy** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:44 pm

Well, it did warm up slightly today and I spent a few minutes looking at the linkage thru the service panel and I think I fixed it.

I'm not sure how I fixed it, but I could see that the choke cabel was moving, slightly, the choke on the rear carb, but not the choke on the front carb. So I was able to grasp the front carb choke with my right hand and the choke knob with my left hand and wiggle them back and forth until it moved.

Then I started her up and it was like nothing was ever wrong. Nothing like a little shaking to make things better.

So that leaves two things: 1) a theory on what caused the problem and 2) a followup question.

1) Cosmic radiation.
2) Should I uncover the carbs and spray some carb cleaner in there?

Timothy

P.S. Profinz, since you live down under you get to take the negative inverse. I.e. - 1/37 C.

Profpinz · Post by **Profpinz** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:04 pm

Peter, would that be right now or in a couple of months?

Most of last week was in the 30's, then for the last few days it's been cold (high teens) .... That's Melbournes weather for you!

Profinz, since you live down under you get to take the negative inverse. I.e. - 1/37 C

Hmm....Interesting way of looking at things.
In that case I hope it doesn't get any colder for you guys!

andy · Post by **andy** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:23 pm

We are starting the drought thing again here. No rain to speak of since last August. If it is a normal dry hot year here, 105 - 110 F will be common in late June, July and August. Tolerable if the humidity stays down and there is a breeze. IF...

Andy

Profpinz · Post by **Profpinz** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:20 am

We are starting the drought thing again here. No rain to speak of since last August. If it is a normal dry hot year here, 105 - 110 F

Yep, the drought is a BIG problem here too.
Water restrictions limit watering the garden to a few hours a week (by hand only) and you can't wash cars at home.
I've just purchased a 4500 litre rain water tank to collect the rain run-off so that should help a little after it fills.
'If" we move to the next stage of water restrictions washing cars all-together will be banned!

Erik712m · Post by **Erik712m** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:20 am

we have gotten rain or snow about every three or four days for the last three months. wish it would stop.

Profpinz · Post by **Profpinz** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:38 am

Bottle it up Erik and send it over!

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Stuck Choke and Gas pedal

Stuck Choke and Gas pedal

14?

Cold

Still cold, but I think I have it fixed.