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Diesel conversion driving report

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:21 am
by Roman
Several months ago, I reported about a man, who was doing a Pinzi diesel conversion with the Citroen C25 engine.
Well, yesterday he come around with the rig fully finished and registered.
He allowed me to go behind the steering wheel and off we went. Personally I am the fan of keeping the pinzi fully stock, but I must admit, that I was surprised beyond
any expectations how well this diesel proved itself. At first the engine starts absolutely instantly. The next, shifting was smooth as oiled. Third, there was absolute absence
of any engine hesitation while starting the ride from the stop. Driving was a real fun. The diesel noise was aparent, but somehow not very harsh, since there was not any
turbocharger. Inside it is possibile to speak with a bit higher voice. The engine power and torque feels somewhat similar to stock pinzi gasoline engine.
During the ride, we stopped to make some pics.
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There is visible the cooler cover on the left side, where usually boxes are. The cooler is provided with two large fans and it is usual to hear them whining, when the one exits
the car. The battery box however is located on the right side on the usual place of the spare canister.
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Inside the cabin the engine is covered with the tailored cover with a bit lower profile compared to stock one.
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Heating is similar as in the common cars and works excellent.
The most impact to internal space was done in the rear compartment where an ugly box covers the rear part of the engine. At the right side the coolant expansion tank
was placed for easy access.
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The owner said, that there actually was enough space to put the engine much more forward and spare the rear compartment, but this would require the manufacturing of
the different oil pan and more important would sacrifice the place for the passenger's seat. The rear compartment was chosen as being less important.

I think that someone may find this report as interesting curiosity.
Otherwise here in the Europe there was allready some snow, which allways presents chance for pinzi owners to go out and play a bit.

Best regards to all.
Roman
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:09 am
by andy
Roman, maybe I missed reading it. What is the slanted box/compartment on the left side?

Nice pictures and interesting vehicle.

Regards,

Andy

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:49 am
by Roman
It is a perforated steel plate which protects the water cooler.

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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:02 pm
by lindenengineering
Roman
Thanks for posting the pictures.
The Peugeot Citoen engine you mentioned is a very popular & reliable unit.
My brother use to work for Citroen UK and often mentions the engine will out live the car when it gets condemned for corrosion damage due to the winter salting of British roads.

Not approved for import into the USA this engine is a rareity; I am getting one in bits to re-assemble over here then to compare it to the other repower renditions I have tried.
Keep up the news brief. Much appreciated
Dennis
PS How's about a HyBrid Pinz

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:51 am
by Jim LaGuardia
The loss of cargo area is heinous, but to each his own :roll:

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:58 am
by Roman
I do agree.

Strange, but when I did a look into some pics from the time, when this pinzi was not assembled yet it apeared that the engine actually does not protrude much into the rear compartment.

Now it seems to me, that the man simply bolted in the box he had at hand, just to spare time. I am quite sure, that it can be later replaced with the very small tailored metal cover.

Roman

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:48 am
by lindenengineering
Roman
I would also be interested to see what he has housed under that cover.
Dimensionally the engine unit is similar to the length of the Steyr engine.
Very curious?
He may have decided to put the radiator aft of the engine to emulate certain Renault/Skoda models I know of!
Dennis

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:53 am
by andy
Jim, I've strongly considered adding a fuel cell about 1/2 that deep, just as wide and about as high, in my 710M in that same spot. My concern has been the slosh factor. Not so much the smell, but I don't want gas on my corn or protein bags. And I never could decide whether to route it to the tank (gravity) maybe assisted by a small pump or to have a regular pump on top and loose more space. I've had both set ups in different pickups.

Back to the thread, sorry.

Andy

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:39 am
by gunnar
perhaps he has gput the batteries under the box as the battery box is missing

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:10 am
by andy
On the 710M it looks like the box is behind the gas tank and on the "K" I can't tell. Are there 2 conversions?

Andy

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:35 am
by Roman
Andy

My ambulance K is not diesel conversion. I just added the photo in the
snow for the christmas feel.

Roman

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:13 am
by andy
Roman, thank you. The snow is pretty in the picture. This is about as close to it as I want to get though.

Regards,

Andy

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:50 pm
by Erik712m
Andy, i would just buy a bigger gas tank. the guy who used to make them for cold war is selling them now on his own.

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:25 pm
by todds112
Interesting solution for the radiator. I'm sure the covers, etc could be further refined for better it and finish.

Roman, do you have more pictures of your truck. Be interesting to see interior. I've never seen a 710 Ambulance. Very nice truck!

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:26 pm
by todds112
Erik Maybee wrote:Andy, i would just buy a bigger gas tank. the guy who used to make them for cold war is selling them now on his own.
Is this the armored extended ones? Does he have a web-site? As I recall they were pretty pricey ($1200+).