NOOB with some questions
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NOOB with some questions
Greetings everyone! I am buying a 71 710 model pinzy and am WAY stoked on it.
I am BRAND new to Pinzies, so have a few questions.
Anybody done a power steering conversion? Suggestions on doing one?
Any specific tires that people like? I'll be joining Rocky Mountain Pinzgauers, and the club has some deals there....but am open to suggestions from people who've had them for a while.
I may, ultimately, be interested in doing a frame-off resto. Any big hints on this? Besides get the tech manual (coming with mine).
Has anyone relocated the handles for t-case and lockers? Or converted them to electric? Not that I'm PLANNING to, but am curious. I need to rig up a place for ham radio equipment in the cab, so will probably build a tray over the windshield for this purpose....but am just spitballing until I have the 710 in my driveway.
Thanks to all for their expertise and suggestions, I think this is going to be a lot of fun
I am BRAND new to Pinzies, so have a few questions.
Anybody done a power steering conversion? Suggestions on doing one?
Any specific tires that people like? I'll be joining Rocky Mountain Pinzgauers, and the club has some deals there....but am open to suggestions from people who've had them for a while.
I may, ultimately, be interested in doing a frame-off resto. Any big hints on this? Besides get the tech manual (coming with mine).
Has anyone relocated the handles for t-case and lockers? Or converted them to electric? Not that I'm PLANNING to, but am curious. I need to rig up a place for ham radio equipment in the cab, so will probably build a tray over the windshield for this purpose....but am just spitballing until I have the 710 in my driveway.
Thanks to all for their expertise and suggestions, I think this is going to be a lot of fun
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I love my PS but it took a lot of time and effort to design and build the system (and NO I don't supply kits )
Full details at:
http://users.bigpond.net.au/profpinz/mo ... eering.htm
Full details at:
http://users.bigpond.net.au/profpinz/mo ... eering.htm
Peter
1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover
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1974, 712 6X6 Pinzgauer
1983, 710-1.6 4X4 Pinzgauer
1997, 718 6X6 Pinzgauer (in pieces)
1971, 700 Haflinger
1974, 703 LWB Haflinger
2001, Range Rover
http://www.ozpinz.com
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My experience has been, and I've heard it often repeated, that it's tough to out-design the original Pinz vehicle.
That's not to say that mods like pwr. steering or relocated lockers aren't a good idea. But Peter is one of the very few who've installed a workable power steering system. I've not heard of anyone who changed out the lockers.
In my case, every time I've changed something around, whatever improvement I realized was then compromising another aspect of the truck. It's grown into an appreciation of the original design.
As with many antique vehicles, preserving the original condition of the vehicle is often viewed as desireable. Whatever mods I've made I've tried to design so I could remove them and restore the truck to stock if/when needed.
But then you've got guys like Peter out there making up some incredible changes... Either way, I expect you'll have fun at it. Good luck.
That's not to say that mods like pwr. steering or relocated lockers aren't a good idea. But Peter is one of the very few who've installed a workable power steering system. I've not heard of anyone who changed out the lockers.
In my case, every time I've changed something around, whatever improvement I realized was then compromising another aspect of the truck. It's grown into an appreciation of the original design.
As with many antique vehicles, preserving the original condition of the vehicle is often viewed as desireable. Whatever mods I've made I've tried to design so I could remove them and restore the truck to stock if/when needed.
But then you've got guys like Peter out there making up some incredible changes... Either way, I expect you'll have fun at it. Good luck.
Herbert Has look at the green pickle. One ugly truck but it has every mod you could think of from disc brakes to fuel injection. Also there is a yellow 712m floating around with electronic lockers.I've not heard of anyone who changed out the lockers.
So are you going to put out a kit?I love my PS but it took a lot of time and effort to design and build the system (and NO I don't supply kits )
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thanks for the info guys, I appreciate it.
My intent isn't to change the lockers themselves (that sounds pretty bold to me), but to change the location of the handles should the dash be modified. And the power steering setup that you've got does look pretty awesome Peter!
She arrives in the next several days, and then I'll get a better idea of what's what. Tires will definitely be the first thing I do.
Jason
My intent isn't to change the lockers themselves (that sounds pretty bold to me), but to change the location of the handles should the dash be modified. And the power steering setup that you've got does look pretty awesome Peter!
She arrives in the next several days, and then I'll get a better idea of what's what. Tires will definitely be the first thing I do.
Jason
Actually you don't change out the lockers, it's the actuators. His are air operated, and are one of the factory options if I recall.Erik712m wrote: Herbert Has look at the green pickle. One ugly truck but it has every mod you could think of from disc brakes to fuel injection.
If you think about it and are mechanically clever it should not be too hard to swap the hydraulic cylinders for air actuators.
That said, as a fellow ham, you would find having radios at the locker area a pain. Not that easy to operate, and will constantly get in the way of removing the dog house. Better approach is to go with a remote mount head, with the radios on the cab wall behind the seats and the heads in an overhead mount or lined up on top of the instrument panel.
I would avoid the temptation to mount lot's of radios high in the cab in a steel jeep type overhead mount, as you would be moving the Center of Gravity high & forward on a vehicle that already is heavily biased in that direction.
One pound at roof height counts like five at engine level, so you have to factor that in. A couple of small radios are fine, just be aware of the CG issue.
I'd get one, drive it a bit, and then figure out where you'd want your radios.
Have fun,
Alan
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thanks for the info pinztrek my primary rig is a yaesu ft857D, and it does pretty well all I need. I have it in my F350 for the moment with a remote mount - faceplate on the dash, and the body behind the back seat. I think I'll probably end up doing the same in my 710 - overhead mount of some kind for the radio, and then put the body behind the seats. then I'll put the ATAS 120 on the roof (probably) and a uhf/vhf antenna up too somewhere.
I could never lease a vehicle....I always modify things on them way too much. The 710 is going to be a lot of fun as a project vehicle I think
thanks again for the info everyone!
I could never lease a vehicle....I always modify things on them way too much. The 710 is going to be a lot of fun as a project vehicle I think
thanks again for the info everyone!
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Welcome to Pinzgauer ownership. As the previous respondents note, I too would encourage you to live with it for a while before I'd go changing things. There's certainly room for improvement for our countless and varied civilian applications but it is a very well designed vehicle right out of the box. Unless Roger Penske or Jack Roush is a close relative and you have access to their machine shops and in-house fabricators, I suspect you're wasting time and money with some of those mods you describe.
The more Pinz folks you meet, you more you'll learn and the more you'll come to appreciate this truck just the way it. There's room for improvement but I'd say those changes are more evolutionary and not revolutionary.
Enjoy your new toy!
The more Pinz folks you meet, you more you'll learn and the more you'll come to appreciate this truck just the way it. There's room for improvement but I'd say those changes are more evolutionary and not revolutionary.
Enjoy your new toy!
Looking for next new (for me) toy
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In my opinion you are leaving out the mod with the biggest return of investment. New Seats. I replaced the stock seats with some Saturn seats for about $50 and it made the Pinz experience much better.
Other small mods I've enjoyed are making the window tops removable by cutting notches in the window sills and mounting the handles directly to the bottom half of the door. Another easy one is a small 3LED battery powered dome light.
Power steering is pretty low on the list of things I'd like to do to my truck considering marginal benefit and high cost. I have never had the luxury of trying power steering on a Pinz, but manual steering has never interfered with the Pinz experience.
Higher on the list for me would be fuel injection. Disc brakes would be nice too, but I don't see a realistic option for those.
Other small mods I've enjoyed are making the window tops removable by cutting notches in the window sills and mounting the handles directly to the bottom half of the door. Another easy one is a small 3LED battery powered dome light.
Power steering is pretty low on the list of things I'd like to do to my truck considering marginal benefit and high cost. I have never had the luxury of trying power steering on a Pinz, but manual steering has never interfered with the Pinz experience.
Higher on the list for me would be fuel injection. Disc brakes would be nice too, but I don't see a realistic option for those.
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I've ordered up a couple of trinkets, and have some plans, but nothing that seems really out of the ordinary for most users. Will be doing the Pertronix upgrade, and put in a 24-12v step down so I can run my ham radio and a few other things. Inverter, some offroad lights - but those are not on any schedule, and I want to get a feel for things first before making any real mods.
The seats sound like a GREAT idea, I'm sure to look into that. My pinz gets delivered this week, and I'm looking forward to playing with it!
The seats sound like a GREAT idea, I'm sure to look into that. My pinz gets delivered this week, and I'm looking forward to playing with it!
i gotta say, i love the way my steering feels. it would definitely be nicer to have some power there when i'm trying to wheel around in ruts and such, tho. feels awesome otherwise.
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