WTB 710k aerial tubes- europe

[bonefish635]

Hi,

I obtained a set of the mounts for aerial front mounted storage tubes but don't have a set of the tubes themselves. Does anyone out there (in the UK preferably) have a set of tubes they would sell? Given the size of the things, I think shipping costs would prevent me sourcing them further afield.

Tony

[mm58]

FWIW... the "tubes" that you refer to on the army radio truck, are actually the telescopic (crank-up) antenna masts. I suspect they'd be very rare, and very pricey if you were to find them.

If you're happy to simulate the look of the masts, just get some 4" ABS pipe, end caps, cut to length and paint.

[crcpinz]

Yes, mine are plastic too. Plastic tends to bend a little. I tried to find aluminum pipe in that size, but gave up. When the Swiss army sold their trucks they stripped them all of anything radio-like, including the radio bases and "cage" for the radio table and the antennas. Maybe you could find them in Switzerland or Austria if you really looked hard.

[Q]

Maybe you could find them in Switzerland or Austria if you really looked hard.

I think this is the proper telescopic 'Antennenmast':

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BW-TELESKOP-KUR ... 3a8018cdc5

[bonefish635]

crcpinz wrote:
Maybe you could find them in Switzerland or Austria if you really looked hard.


I think this is the proper telescopic 'Antennenmast':

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BW-TELESKOP-KUR ... 3a8018cdc5

What i meant was the horizontal tubes like here (image from steeltigerz' photo hosting) for the two piece fibreglass aerials, and not the wind up telescopic ones.

Tony

[McCall Pinz]

Those two are just 4" ABS pipe with a wingnutted cap on them.

[bonefish635]

OK. That makes life simpler.

Tony

[berger]

Where did you get the mounts for the tubes?

[compunerdy]

If your pins does not have the tube brackets...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Steyr-Puch-Pinz ... 32&vxp=mtr

[bonefish635]

From a member on this forum called 'ScottishPinz'.

They're precisely what computernerdy has just posted in his eBay link.

Tony

[berger]

Thanks Guys!

[edzz]

In this photo odd looking things are the correct antennas that were used with the Pinzgauers.

During operations the truck would be parked in a somewhat sheltered location and antenna wire would be run to the location that had been chosen for the antennas. This would allow the truck to be parked under camouflage or in the trees and have the antennas located at a location that provide proper radio operation. http://www.tacfl.org/equiment.html

The set of pictures of the tubes on the front of my truck show tubes made from abs plumbing parts. Use your imagination, I used an inside fitting plug on the passenger side and a clean out fitting with a screw in plug for the driver’s side the raised piece just inboard of the driver’s side clamp is a coupled that I ground the inside ridge out of so it would slide over the main tube, I glued it in place just to insure that the tubes would not walk out of the mount. I scuffed the abs parts with sand paper to remove the gloss so they would look better on my truck.
I wish I could locate a set of the antennas cheap… fat chance of that happening.

[bonefish635]

Ed, that is very helpful. I have the whip aerials shown mounted on the white truck in your first photo. Since the come apart in the middle, to approximately the length of the front mounted tubes, I assumed those tubes were there to store them. Certainly it would suit me to use them for that.

I'll try the ABS route.

Thanks,

Tony

[GenevaPinz]

During operations the truck would be parked in a somewhat sheltered location and antenna wire would be run to the location that had been chosen for the antennas. This would allow the truck to be parked under camouflage or in the trees and have the antennas located at a location that provide proper radio operation.

When I operated radios from a 710K in the Swiss Army, the antenna cables were 20 meters (60ft) long, formed of 2 cables of 10m connected together. Longer cables were apparently technically not possible, or would have hindered transmission or reception performance. To put it simply, instructors would not let us connect 3 or 4 cables together (we had 2 per antenna, so 4 total per truck)...
The length was sufficient to allow us to deploy both antennas with enough distance between them so operations on one radio would not disturb operations on the second radio (off the top of my head they needed to be 15 or 20 meters away from eachother, which also allowed one to fall without touching the other).

Between the radios themselves, that were in the truck, and the operator sitting in a Command post (usually a cellar lent by a local farmer), we would use remotes (US Army ref. A/N GRA-39B) with a control box with a handset (or headset) in the CP and a connection box plugged into the radio. The two boxes were connected with a simple 2-cable telephone wire, and there was a 300 or 500 meter (can't remember now, so 1'000 or 1'650 ft) coil for each radio. The truck was to be placed away from the Command Post and camouflaged, and there was someone left in the truck at all times to guard it and to change frequencies if needed, as control boxes only allowed to transmit and receive, not to operate the radio entirely.

Sorry for hijacking the trade for a bit of "Swiss Army memories"...

[GenevaPinz]

double post... sorry about this. I blame Tapatalk... ;-D