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Wow wow wow - very rare opportunity for someone 710k US

Post by TechMOGogy » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:54 am

If I had any space left...
http://www.pinzgauer.com/shpics.php?tab ... =173&cat=1

EDIT: is this legit or a copy of one?
I looked at the magazine article and the dash is much different in the magazine one, as well as some other differences, like the front lights, etc
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Post by undysworld » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:22 pm

TechMOGogy wrote:EDIT: is this legit or a copy of one?
My first thoughts exactly. I first came across the magazine article during the fight here with DOT. I was also in contact with a guy from CO (Per) who claimed to have a civilian version, and one which was brought over for DOT testing (?) when they were planning US sales. But his photos weren't of this truck.

If it's the same one, WOW. Speaking personally, who would choose the paint scheme, so may be.
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Post by TechMOGogy » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:10 pm

Perhaps each one was different?
Front (grill area) and inside is def different
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Post by undysworld » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:08 am

Willy'd probably know the history.
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Post by Haf-e » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:48 pm

I think there were several different trucks brought to the USA when they were considering offering them here. I think they also were also offering the same "deluxe" civilian model in Europe once they finished up delivering the Swiss military production around 1978 and had excess capacity on the Pinzgauer production line perhaps?


Here is a photo of the one out in Colorado - owned by Per Eliasen - note that it has the same black plastic (i suspect) grill cover that extends to the headlights on each side as well.
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Post by Haf-e » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:38 pm

Just noticed a photo of one in the "rotator" in the upper left corner that looks the same but with a roof tent on it! Euro plate on it... but different roof rack as it has connections to the rain gutters.
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Post by per eliasen » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:03 am

It has come to my attention that my 710K Pinzgauer has surfaced in a discussion on this site. This has prompted me to join in and provide a couple of facts about my civilian Pinzgauer.

It was made in 1978 as a US proto-type. It is NOT the unit which made it's rounds with various car/truck magazines in the US during 1978. Rather, it was designed/constructed according to feed-back generated in the US.

As per conversations I had in 1997 with Heinz Ahlgrimm, Chief engineer at Steyr-Daimler-Puch, Graz, my Pinzgauer started out as a radio-truck unit, which Steyr then modified to reflect a more civilized taste level and US-Government requirements. To give you some ideas, my 710K was produced with a 12V system, power-steering, chrome bumpers, Eberspaecher heater, fabric seats, aluminum gas-tank mounted underneath the rear passenger seats inside the cabin (no saddle tank), metal front grill with integrated headlights, vents in the front, front steps, full instrumentation with a civilian dash-board (no resemblance at all to what is found in military Pinzgauer units). There are additional items which makes it more "civilized" but the items mentioned are the main components.

After Steyr made the decision not to enter the US market after all, my Pinzgauer became a demo-truck at the factory until 1983. Later that year, Dr. Baker in Dallas, Texas bought it and imported it to the US. In 1992, I found out Dr. Baker wanted to sell it, however, his asking price was way more than I could afford. Negotiations lasted for 5 years and finally in 1997, we were able to agree on a price within my budget. According to Heinz Ahlgrimm, I am considered one of the original Pinzgauer owners in the USA.

I hope this puts some light on the subject matter. If any questions, feel free to contact me directly here: scanamerican@gmail.com

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Post by TechMOGogy » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:32 pm

Would love to see pictures of your truck - inside and outside please.
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Post by undysworld » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:03 pm

Hello Per.

Perhaps you will remember speaking with me during the dustup here in Wisconsin over Pinzgauers? There was talk at the time of me obtaining photos of your truck for our appeal hearing.

I believe the photos I got from Dennis Williams are of a different (maybe civilian?) Pinz. They are not of your truck. (It's been years, so I don't really recall what happened, other than there was a bit of a delay.)

Thank you for your input back then. I can't pin down exactly what won our case, but we did prevail.

It is nice though to see photos of yours finally! It's got an interesting history.

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Post by Haf-e » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:30 pm

Thanks Per for posting.

What did they put in place of the gas tank on your passenger side? I suspect it would be a tool box? That would be a nice configuration.

Would also love to see some additional photos.
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Post by per eliasen » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:12 pm

I will be happy to post interior & exterior pictures of my Pinzgauer. It will be a few days before I can get to is since I am currently recovering from major surgery.

Haf-e asked what is in the place of the saddle tank: One additional storage box- very handy for tire chains, etc. You will be able to see this once I figure out how to attach pictures to a post, as I am new here and haven't figured it out yet!

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Post by Wyothing » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:16 am

Glad you joined the forum! The history of your truck is very coo. Cant' wait to see pictures.

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Post by TechMOGogy » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:22 pm

per eliasen wrote: You will be able to see this once I figure out how to attach pictures to a post, as I am new here and haven't figured it out yet!
If you have any issue with posting photos just PM one of us and we would be happy to help you - its a simple process once you have done it once or twice!
I looked for a thread that showed how to post photos but could not find one.
Here is a simple screen shot that shows the location of the file attachment buttons

1. you click Choose File, this allows you to find the file on your computer (you have to do it file x file, ie can't pick 4 or 5 at a time)
Once you have the file selected go to:
2. and it will upload the file to the forum.
If the file is to big it will tell you (and we can provide tips on how to reduce the size of your photos on your computer)
3. is then to just type your message and click Submit button.
Please not you can only add a maximum of 5 photos before you click Submit - if you want to post say 6 or 7 photos you just post again and go through steps 1-3
Hope that helps!
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Post by McCall Pinz » Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:00 am

That is likely one of the few European upmarket civilian campers built. The TCS (Touring Club Schweitz) sticker and those by the radio look age correct and not something you'd see in the US or if it was a copy. Not sure about the linoleum or carpet choice?! :roll:
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Post by per eliasen » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:53 pm

Hello Gang, I finally had a chance to take some photos of my 710K, so here goes!

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