Electro Magnetic Pulse....

[berger]

Ok, odd topic I know, but I am curious about something. I tuned into a TV show called Doomsday Preppers the other night, just because the title caught my attention. One of the "preps" one family was speaking about was an EMP blast. Now, I have a partial understanding of what this entails, but I was curious about military vehicles, like the Pinz, and if their shielded systems would survive? If not, what would blow and what would need to be replaced to get the truck running after such an event?

I am not a Prepper, just curious.

[edzz]

A Pinzgauer would have a much higher than the average chance of surviving a pulse when compared to a modern electronic infested vehicle. The most likely component to be damaged would be the aftermarket electronic ignition module. Doesn’t everyone carry a set of points just in case the back-up electronic ignition module in the Pinzgauers built in faraday cage (aka the tool box)?

Carrying chain’s when snow is in the forecast doesn’t make one a prepper

[pcolette]

After an EMP blast I don't think there would be many places to drive my Pinz to - but maybe I'll toss a set of points and condenser in with the spares just in case.

[berger]

A Pinzgauer would have a much higher than the average chance of surviving a pulse when compared to a modern electronic infested vehicle. The most likely component to be damaged would be the aftermarket electronic ignition module. Doesn’t everyone carry a set of points just in case the back-up electronic ignition module in the Pinzgauers built in faraday cage (aka the tool box)?

Ya, and I just upgraded to a Civi setup too!

Scott at EI recommended I have points handy, so I will pick some up shortly. Would the coil get damaged?

[Middlebury_Pinz]

An EMP is the by product of a nuclear detonation or the direct result of a unique weapon designed to produce an EMP to destroy infrastructure. It would take out anything with a winding like your coil, starter, alternator, ballast resistor for the ignition and anything else that can have an induced field.

If I'm not mistaken, the shielding on the ignition system was to prevent interference on any military radio that would have been installed in service?

All these spares represent a substantial investment. Just build a faraday cage in your garage and store it there the cage absorbs this energy/ pulse and redirects it to ground.

Mike

[berger]

Just build a faraday cage in your garage and store it there the cage absorbs this energy/ pulse and redirects it to ground.

Mike

Redirect it into my bunker!?! Are you crazy!!

[edzz]

Mike while I agree that all electrical devices could be affected by a pulse the old school devices aren’t as susceptible as the newer transistor / computer devices.
Put another way my modern vehicles are more likely to be damaged by an emp at a given distance from the occurrence than most military vehicles.

[Dreadnought]

So we are saying that my Pinz with it,s old style Mercedes (non electronic) diesel engine conversion.....would be good to go??? (he he thought so) I have to admit that being worried about EMP was not on my list of 'why I should convert to diesel'.

[spandit]

So we are saying that my Pinz with it,s old style Mercedes (non electronic) diesel engine conversion.....would be good to go??? (he he thought so) I have to admit that being worried about EMP was not on my list of 'why I should convert to diesel'.

I'd imagine there are coils in the injectors, alternator, starter motor etc.

Really tempted with an engine conversion now, seeing as I've buggered my petrol (gas) engine

[undysworld]

After an EMP blast I don't think there would be many places to drive my Pinz to

Yeah, and don't forget about the Zombies, too.

[Dreadnought]

No coils in the injectors.....old style......if a diesel is running when the EMP hits...it just keeps on running......if the starter is gone...just bump start it. Seriously if you do consider a diesel conversion.....do take lots of measurements and choose a diesel with a cam chain (belts dont like deep water unless like a Landrover engine they are inside a sealed casing) or you could end up encroaching on your space in the cab.....which you have to admit is cramped enough as it is and one disadvantage is that it is difficult to turbo diesel a Pinz unless you can fabricate a remote position for the turbo.....and this is because turbos are usually situated just halfway up the side of the engine.....exactly where you or your passenger are sitting... and even behind some kind of a bulkhead and heat shield...you dont want a red hot turbo right next to you...do you????

[stiffler4444]

An EMP is the by product of a nuclear detonation or the direct result of a unique weapon designed to produce an EMP to destroy infrastructure. It would take out anything with a winding like your coil, starter, alternator, ballast resistor for the ignition and anything else that can have an induced field.

If I'm not mistaken, the shielding on the ignition system was to prevent interference on any military radio that would have been installed in service?

All these spares represent a substantial investment. Just build a faraday cage in your garage and store it there the cage absorbs this energy/ pulse and redirects it to ground.

Mike

Doesn't knowing all this put you on a special list in the U.S. these days?

[spandit]

No coils in the injectors.....old style......if a diesel is running when the EMP hits...it just keeps on running......if the starter is gone...just bump start it. Seriously if you do consider a diesel conversion.....do take lots of measurements and choose a diesel with a cam chain (belts dont like deep water unless like a Landrover engine they are inside a sealed casing) or you could end up encroaching on your space in the cab.....which you have to admit is cramped enough as it is and one disadvantage is that it is difficult to turbo diesel a Pinz unless you can fabricate a remote position for the turbo.....and this is because turbos are usually situated just halfway up the side of the engine.....exactly where you or your passenger are sitting... and even behind some kind of a bulkhead and heat shield...you dont want a red hot turbo right next to you...do you????

I'm going to look at petrol/gas EFI first - have some cunning ideas that could make it a very attractive (cheap!) proposition but need to discuss it with some experts first. I would like a diesel engine but it looks like there's a lot of work to install one and it's beyond my skill set/budget. Perhaps I could bung a big diesel V8 in the back and have even more space in the cab!

Where do the turbos sit on the TD Pinzes? Perhaps a supercharger would be a better option?

[undysworld]

Robin,

There was a post about a truck w/ a supercharger here: http://www.real4x4forums.com/PinzgauerB ... percharger

The link to the photo didn't work for me.