There is a big difference between the 710 s and the ones the uk used pinzgauer.....as they never used anny petrol pinzgauers, they had the later TD pinzgauers (716M / 716 Mk and 718 ) with the 2.5 TDI engines. They are the upgraded version of the petrol ones, but for me driving off road the 710 just feels better.lrowner wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:24 pm I wonder if you can help, I moved from England 3 years ago to Minnesota and I am member of the Minnesota Land Rover Club ( I have 4 including one prototype military lightweight).Coming from England I was used to seeing the Pinzgauer in use with the British Army.
My knoweldge of Land Rovers is pretty good, but I am looking to add a new vehicle to my collection, and like the Pinzgauer 710M and 710K because of the flexibility, quality of Engineering and off road capability.
I have been doing my research , hearing about common problems, where they rust, etc.
How are they to drive on road at 60 MPH? I can see they are excellent off road, after driving 1955 Land Rovers where heaters and wiper are optional extras, my elbow hits the door everytime I turn a corner, I have a high pain threshold especially after 300 miles
Also is the vehcile a good tow vehicle ( I know the UK army use them as Artillery tow vehicles) and is the hardtop or Ambualnce version practical as an overland camper?
I live in Wayzata MN, are there any Pinzgauer owners close, I really would like to have a look at one and get some honest feedback.
Many thanks
The 710/12 and 716/18 series have had lots of differences . The T cases, the axles/portals are different, including respective body lengths and wheelbases, besides the engines, trans and brakes. Too many people think that a diesel makes a TD, far from true</s>There is a big difference between the 710 s and the ones the uk used pinzgauer.....as they never used anny petrol pinzgauers, they had the later TD pinzgauers (716M / 716 Mk and 718 ) with the 2.5 TDI engines. They are the upgraded version of the petrol ones, but for me driving off road the 710 just feels better.<br/>
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Well they did.....as the steyr M14 engine is now offered as the replacement/ upgrade for the p80,p90 and p93 models. Its been around 3 years when i did visit SGB pinzgauer in the U.K and Gregor hold me he was werking with s- tec to get these engines in the pinzgauer, i think he did 2 or 3 til now. One downside is that this is a verry expensive upgrade.David Dunn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:14 pmThe 710/12 and 716/18 series have had lots of differences . The T cases, the axles/portals are different, including respective body lengths and wheelbases, besides the engines, trans and brakes. Too many people think that a diesel makes a TD, far from true</s>There is a big difference between the 710 s and the ones the uk used pinzgauer.....as they never used anny petrol pinzgauers, they had the later TD pinzgauers (716M / 716 Mk and 718 ) with the 2.5 TDI engines. They are the upgraded version of the petrol ones, but for me driving off road the 710 just feels better.<br/>
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The original TDs made in the UK were P93's with the 2.4TD. ATL's partnering with Roush Technology later introduced the 2.5TDI in the Pinzgauer along with ABS, EBD and ETC. <br/>
ATL never had any licensing rights for the gas Pinzgauer or spare parts, only for the 716/18s. My dealings with ATL went back to 2002 when I got my 716, and ended when BAE, Sealy sold me my LHD, 2.5TDI 718K in 2014. Interestingly, back in '02/03, while talking to a rep at ATL, he was telling me of a program ATL had to re-power P80s and P90s up to a P93 in-house, but nothing at the time for the new 2.5 TDI
