Just starting a new thread on the differences between the Swiss and Austrian Pinzgauers
Now that EI is bring a bunch in it may be a good idea to see what's different (this thread inspired by David Dunn and kdiqq from this thread http://real4x4forums.com/PinzgauerBBS/v ... =12&t=9959)
As David suggested - it may also be helpful for owners to update which spec Pinz they own
So... I really have no clue of all the differences - will leave that for owners of each to hopefully post here
What I do know:
Austrian spec
- Door tops are soft tops
- Windshield is designed to fold down (front top is different I guess?) and they do have 2 knobs that release the windshield
- Extended range gas tank
- Breakers vs Fuses - not sure if wiring is the same?
Swiss vs Austrian Pinzgauers - Difference Thread
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Swiss vs Austrian Pinzgauers - Difference Thread
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Re: Swiss vs Austrian Pinzgauers - Difference Thread
Yes! I can help contribute! I have a neighbor with a Swiss and I've been trying to compare...
I can tell you the wiring is at least minimally different. The designation for the breakers and fuses vary, at least that's what I'm told.
Austrian windshield is very different. My soft top attaches with latches in the front and is riveted to its attaching bar. My windshield is split down the middle and my wiper arms are side-dependent. It also have intermittent wipers and electronic windshield squirters.
My Austrian Pinz also has a different front headlight 'cage' around it as well as the updated 'diesel' tail lights.
This may not apply to all Austrian Pinzes but mine also has the extended range fuel tank.
Scott has told me the Austrian Pinzes got 'many upgrades', but only mentioned body support upgrades, heaters (maybe heat exchanger differences?), and better seatbelt mounts. I have no issues taking and uploading pictures if anyone wants a close look at any parts!
I'm sure Scott will chime in soon enough and get the details on the major differences.
I can tell you the wiring is at least minimally different. The designation for the breakers and fuses vary, at least that's what I'm told.
Austrian windshield is very different. My soft top attaches with latches in the front and is riveted to its attaching bar. My windshield is split down the middle and my wiper arms are side-dependent. It also have intermittent wipers and electronic windshield squirters.
My Austrian Pinz also has a different front headlight 'cage' around it as well as the updated 'diesel' tail lights.
This may not apply to all Austrian Pinzes but mine also has the extended range fuel tank.
Scott has told me the Austrian Pinzes got 'many upgrades', but only mentioned body support upgrades, heaters (maybe heat exchanger differences?), and better seatbelt mounts. I have no issues taking and uploading pictures if anyone wants a close look at any parts!
I'm sure Scott will chime in soon enough and get the details on the major differences.
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Re: Swiss vs Austrian Pinzgauers - Difference Thread
Pics would be great - many of us have not seen detailed pictures of the Austrian spec'd Pinz
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Let me add the invisible details:
Austrian Pinzgauers got a factory refurbishment in 1996 to 1998, about 50.000 US$ per vehicle ..
The got completely disassembled, all worn moving parts got replaced,speedometer to 120 km/h as opposed to 100 ,
eberspächer aux heater is standard, all doors can be locked , reverse is locked by a ring on the shiftstick rather than pressing the stick down, a different (nato style) hook on the rear end...
some items I added to my Pinz ( which was never with the army)
the differentials were modified to exec II ( which is a different set of bearings for the inner gears)
the 5 M6 screws inside the portal drive were swapped for 10.9 quality
Halogen (H4) headlights
different rear bumpers
Austrian M models are designed to be driven windshield-down; they have a rubber rest on the frame round the headlights, and a set of hooks to hold the window frame in place.
if I come across additional items for that list, I'll append here
Austrian Pinzgauers got a factory refurbishment in 1996 to 1998, about 50.000 US$ per vehicle ..
The got completely disassembled, all worn moving parts got replaced,speedometer to 120 km/h as opposed to 100 ,
eberspächer aux heater is standard, all doors can be locked , reverse is locked by a ring on the shiftstick rather than pressing the stick down, a different (nato style) hook on the rear end...
some items I added to my Pinz ( which was never with the army)
the differentials were modified to exec II ( which is a different set of bearings for the inner gears)
the 5 M6 screws inside the portal drive were swapped for 10.9 quality
Halogen (H4) headlights
different rear bumpers
Austrian M models are designed to be driven windshield-down; they have a rubber rest on the frame round the headlights, and a set of hooks to hold the window frame in place.
if I come across additional items for that list, I'll append here
Cheers
Albert
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My Pinz has NEVER been with any army
Albert
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My Pinz has NEVER been with any army
Re: Swiss vs Austrian Pinzgauers - Difference Thread
I don't think the aux heater was standard. Mine does not have one.
Also, my passenger door locks, but does not have a keyed lock. It's all in the handle position. If that door is locked, there is no way to unlock it from the outside.
I do also have the automatic warm-air flapper in my intake.
For pictures, just give me an angle or view you'd like and I will post it up! I don't want to just photo dump haha
Also, my passenger door locks, but does not have a keyed lock. It's all in the handle position. If that door is locked, there is no way to unlock it from the outside.
I do also have the automatic warm-air flapper in my intake.
For pictures, just give me an angle or view you'd like and I will post it up! I don't want to just photo dump haha
1977 Austrian 710M
Re: Swiss vs Austrian Pinzgauers - Difference Thread
I would be most interested in the windshield down bumpers and latches as well as the knobs. I carry a wrench to undo bolts, but i was going to have a machine shop make me knurled bolts out of brass.
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Re: Swiss vs Austrian Pinzgauers - Difference Thread
some pics I found in a google search for "pinzgauer bundesheer"
unfortunately the windscreen is covered in most cases




unfortunately the windscreen is covered in most cases




Cheers
Albert
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My Pinz has NEVER been with any army
Albert
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My Pinz has NEVER been with any army
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Re: Swiss vs Austrian Pinzgauers - Difference Thread
Besides Austrian Pinzes having fuses vs circuit breakers in the Swiss, the tail lamp setup is totally different in that the Swiss used tail lamps and combined turn/brake indicators ( also for the trailer socket). The Austrian use independent bulbs for each function (tail, turn, stop) and the trailer socket the same requiring 5 wires.
The headlamp guards have a horizontal bar that also has a rubber bumper to protect the glass if you set the windshield against before putting the frame into the spring loaded bracket that support the windshield in the down position. IF you want to see something totally bizarre, look at a 716M or 718M that use hinges at the base of the windshield and support stay bars mounted to the sides of the windshield frame to keep the frame from hitting the radiator shroud
The early Pinzes have a tailcone that has only 4 holes and will only accept the the Pinz pintle. Later a 6 hole tailcone was introduce that will take the NATO bolt-on pintle or combo hitches. And yes,a loooong time ago I did have Swiss gas Pinzes (710M and 712M) that did have some of the original and production changes of the early years.... Then I went dirty blue smoke... to not so blue smoke
The headlamp guards have a horizontal bar that also has a rubber bumper to protect the glass if you set the windshield against before putting the frame into the spring loaded bracket that support the windshield in the down position. IF you want to see something totally bizarre, look at a 716M or 718M that use hinges at the base of the windshield and support stay bars mounted to the sides of the windshield frame to keep the frame from hitting the radiator shroud
The early Pinzes have a tailcone that has only 4 holes and will only accept the the Pinz pintle. Later a 6 hole tailcone was introduce that will take the NATO bolt-on pintle or combo hitches. And yes,a loooong time ago I did have Swiss gas Pinzes (710M and 712M) that did have some of the original and production changes of the early years.... Then I went dirty blue smoke... to not so blue smoke

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The Trojan Horse... the 1st Pinz used to covertly carry troops into battle .
ATL Pinzgauer XM 718K TUM(HD) 6x6 FFR (aka The Green Grail)
The Trojan Horse... the 1st Pinz used to covertly carry troops into battle .
ATL Pinzgauer XM 718K TUM(HD) 6x6 FFR (aka The Green Grail)