Coil spring spacers?
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Coil spring spacers?
Soooo im pretty confident my front springs are shot. The nose dips down significantly ever since a wicked jump.
EI sells replacement springs for a little over $300 and I've been contemplating going this route, but what about spring spacers? Am i just asking for trouble by shoving a couple spacers into each front spring? Im 90% on road driving.
EI sells replacement springs for a little over $300 and I've been contemplating going this route, but what about spring spacers? Am i just asking for trouble by shoving a couple spacers into each front spring? Im 90% on road driving.
1973 712m
1968 Haflinger
1965 Pathfinder
1978 GMC Palm Beach (Hey, its got 6 wheels!!)
1968 Haflinger
1965 Pathfinder
1978 GMC Palm Beach (Hey, its got 6 wheels!!)
Re: Coil spring spacers?
In my inexpert opinion - this has bad idea written all over it.
If your springs are hammered that bad, it's going to change the handling characteristics of the vehicle.
What about finding a decent pair of used springs?
Also, it probably doesn't matter if only 10% of your time is off-highway - if you are jumping it during that 10%.
If your springs are hammered that bad, it's going to change the handling characteristics of the vehicle.
What about finding a decent pair of used springs?
Also, it probably doesn't matter if only 10% of your time is off-highway - if you are jumping it during that 10%.
Re: Coil spring spacers?
Well..... Perhaps 4x4 Pinz,Brad,and Man on a mule can post a pic of another approach...
Mark
Mark
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Re: Coil spring spacers?
M Wehrman wrote:Well..... Perhaps 4x4 Pinz,Brad,and Man on a mule can post a pic of another approach...
Mark
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1973 712m
1968 Haflinger
1965 Pathfinder
1978 GMC Palm Beach (Hey, its got 6 wheels!!)
1968 Haflinger
1965 Pathfinder
1978 GMC Palm Beach (Hey, its got 6 wheels!!)
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Re: Coil spring spacers?
So you have more sets still?M Wehrman wrote:Well..... Perhaps 4x4 Pinz,Brad,and Man on a mule can post a pic of another approach...
Mark
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=7802&hilit=springs
also, viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2627&hilit=springs
In this 2nd link if you go through it user, springhill, talks about the SAV springs having thicker coils than the originals - which is interesting.
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Re: Coil spring spacers?
Someone sent me a PM many moons ago about a set and i accidentally deleted the PM before i could respond. Wish i could remember who sent it.
1973 712m
1968 Haflinger
1965 Pathfinder
1978 GMC Palm Beach (Hey, its got 6 wheels!!)
1968 Haflinger
1965 Pathfinder
1978 GMC Palm Beach (Hey, its got 6 wheels!!)
Re: Coil spring spacers?
Well that spring idea did not work out as well as I had hoped.But,for a leveling option,spacers mounted above the springs. I don'h have any pics as I don't have a Pinz anymore.Maybe the boys above can supply some!
Stock means no imagination!
Volvo TGB1317, .95% Morphed!
68 Haffy
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Re: Coil spring spacers?
These are available: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8102 from the other Paul in Wisconsin.
Paul C.
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Re: Coil spring spacers?
Ahh that's right. Little nervous of custom made springs. Hmm
1973 712m
1968 Haflinger
1965 Pathfinder
1978 GMC Palm Beach (Hey, its got 6 wheels!!)
1968 Haflinger
1965 Pathfinder
1978 GMC Palm Beach (Hey, its got 6 wheels!!)
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Re: Coil spring spacers?
Im liking the spacer above the spring idea. has anyone done such a thing? Any idea of diameter required?
1973 712m
1968 Haflinger
1965 Pathfinder
1978 GMC Palm Beach (Hey, its got 6 wheels!!)
1968 Haflinger
1965 Pathfinder
1978 GMC Palm Beach (Hey, its got 6 wheels!!)
Re: Coil spring spacers?
This idea came from Man on a mule. using a piece of round stock, appx 1.5" dia. cut to length(more info further along). Next I used some small wheel studs and ground the flange end to match the shape of the little tit on the spring cap. Back to the slug,i drilled and tapped the middle to accept the stud. Next grind and shape one end of the slug to fit the shape of the of the spring cap so it sits flat inside the cap and somewhat snug over the "tit". FLAT is the key word here. Now the lift recipe is the length of the slug is 1/2 of desired lift, a 1" slug for example will lift the ft almost 2". Once the slug is shaped to the inside of the spring cap,cut excess stud threads so that it resembles the height of original tit and does not bottom thru the slug. This has been done to 3 trucks, oldest has been running for over 4 yrs now. Maybe I can draw a picture and post it,but I am challenged in those matters.
Mark
Note this will only level a truck and get proper tire angle,it does not give more travel than you had before.
Mark
Note this will only level a truck and get proper tire angle,it does not give more travel than you had before.
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Re: Coil spring spacers?
Or just get the longer length pin that fits into the top of the spring cup... assuming the length you need is available, but the factory had an assortment of pin lengths defined for just such a purpose.
No "modifications" needed, just change the pin to a longer version.
No "modifications" needed, just change the pin to a longer version.
Jim M.
712W and 710M
712W and 710M
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Re: Coil spring spacers?
1973 712m
1968 Haflinger
1965 Pathfinder
1978 GMC Palm Beach (Hey, its got 6 wheels!!)
1968 Haflinger
1965 Pathfinder
1978 GMC Palm Beach (Hey, its got 6 wheels!!)
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Re: Coil spring spacers?
I typed without checking -- the pin on the BOTTOM of the spring, #19 in this image.
Jim M.
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Re: Coil spring spacers?
Interesting!
Mark, is this the same place you described? I'm a bit unclear where your mod is placed.
What's the diameter and thread of the base of the pin? Couldn't I use a threaded coupler to accept the stock pin and chop off the head of an appropriate bolt for the other side? Place the three pieces back into the place of 19?
Mark, is this the same place you described? I'm a bit unclear where your mod is placed.
What's the diameter and thread of the base of the pin? Couldn't I use a threaded coupler to accept the stock pin and chop off the head of an appropriate bolt for the other side? Place the three pieces back into the place of 19?
1973 712m
1968 Haflinger
1965 Pathfinder
1978 GMC Palm Beach (Hey, its got 6 wheels!!)
1968 Haflinger
1965 Pathfinder
1978 GMC Palm Beach (Hey, its got 6 wheels!!)