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Re: First Oil Change

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:23 pm
by djw
No tools, including this fan holding tool, came with mine is why I was asking.

Sometimes in situations like this, if it is handy, the sharp impact of an impact wrench obviates the need for a holding tool. Not the torque per se but why an impact can remove the lug nuts from a wheel that can rotate freely when the regular wrench can't.

Wondering if this is like that, and the nut dimension.

Re: First Oil Change

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:59 pm
by Jim LaGuardia
Lug nuts are 19mm and "acorn type" So you have to get them from your local Pinz parts supplier. Torque is around 125 ft lbs.
A standard size 1/2" drive breaker bar with 19mm socket will do fine.

Re: First Oil Change

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:11 pm
by djw
Jim LaGuardia wrote:Lug nuts are 19mm and "acorn type" So you have to get them from your local Pinz parts supplier. Torque is around 125 ft lbs.
A standard size 1/2" drive breaker bar with 19mm socket will do fine.
thanks Jim but was referring to the one on the fan/fan belt in lieu of having no fan holding tool or pinz toolkit if an impact could loosen the nut without necessitating holding the fan.

and the size of the fan bolt.

Re: First Oil Change

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:52 pm
by Jim LaGuardia
Fan nut is 27mm, Loosening with air gun is ok, but you must tighten it by hand.
You can get a pin spanner to hold the fan at Harbor freight for a few bucks.
Move shims as needed to adjust belt tension, rotate fan while tightening nut to prevent pinching belt.
Belt should have 1/2" deflection.

Re: First Oil Change

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:32 am
by djw
Jim LaGuardia wrote:Fan nut is 27mm, Loosening with air gun is ok, but you must tighten it by hand.
You can get a pin spanner to hold the fan at Harbor freight for a few bucks.
Move shims as needed to adjust belt tension, rotate fan while tightening nut to prevent pinching belt.
Belt should have 1/2" deflection.

Thanks for that HF point out.

Re: First Oil Change

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:04 pm
by djw
Jim LaGuardia wrote:Fan nut is 27mm, Loosening with air gun is ok, but you must tighten it by hand.
You can get a pin spanner to hold the fan at Harbor freight for a few bucks.
Move shims as needed to adjust belt tension, rotate fan while tightening nut to prevent pinching belt.
Belt should have 1/2" deflection.
Sadly the pin spanner at HF in no way is large enough to fit in both the holes on the fan that are on opposite sides. I measure about 5" between holes or 125mm.

Maybe there is a different tool at HF, but this one is not it. Max spread on this tool is about 2 inches.

Anyone with an alternate method or local tool to hold the fan for re-installation of the fan nut please clue me in.

An air gun gently removes the fan nut instantly without the need for a holding tool. :wink: But it needs to be a short socket with a small gun and a swivel on the hose to get it in there.

But for some reason there were 6 spacing washers in their instead of the 4 the manual indicates. No wonder the belt was a tad loose.

Thanks

(Note to self and any potential buyer - make sure the Pinz tool kit is in the truck and part of the deal if ever buying another Pinz -

Harder to find [supposed to be] in-truck tool kit parts with no handy local substitute:
spark plug wrench 7101552101
2-hole (pin) wrench 7101552112
jack 7101552200
jack handle 7101552211
tow cable 7111970052

Re: First Oil Change

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:31 pm
by pcolette
The only fan tool I know of is the one that was supplied with the Pinz. They are available new from SAV (http://www.pinzgauer.com/showdetails.ph ... 101552112/) but are a bit pricey.

I'll take a look thru my spare tools and see if I have an extra. If so I'll let you know.

Re: First Oil Change

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:21 pm
by David Dunn
Take a piece of bar stock and notch an area out around for the hub towards one end, then drill holes for dowel pins and press them in

Re: First Oil Change

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:56 pm
by czarthirteen
Man....it looks like someone's been pretty aggro with that fan nut before. Mine has been on and off a few times and has nice pointy edges still.

Re: First Oil Change

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:28 pm
by djw
czarthirteen wrote:Man....it looks like someone's been pretty aggro with that fan nut before. Mine has been on and off a few times and has nice pointy edges still.
That's what I thought too, but it looks a little better in person. Same way with all the oil plugs - seen a bit better days, but they work.

Air gun removed it no fuss. The belt is pretty loose.

Going over the new-to-me truck is full of interesting discoveries.

Re: First Oil Change

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:06 am
by 19D20
Pulley Wrench, A - Pulley Wrench (Spanner) For Porsche 911

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Re: First Oil Change

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:35 am
by djw
The pin is not on the inside radius?

Re: First Oil Change

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:38 am
by djw
19D20 wrote:Pulley Wrench, A - Pulley Wrench (Spanner) For Porsche 911

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Pin is in the wrong spot (inside radius?) on this as the are located on the front of the fan. Needs to be more like this I think.

Re: First Oil Change

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:10 am
by czarthirteen
Nope.....general spanner wrenches work fine. We have a master set from Matco and always find other uses for them. Single pin does the trick with a little mechanical aptitude.

Re: First Oil Change

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:51 pm
by berger
djw wrote:
19D20 wrote:Pulley Wrench, A - Pulley Wrench (Spanner) For Porsche 911

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That tool looks like a motorcycle shock adjustment tool...at least for my Ural anyway....