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running lights turn signal
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:16 pm
by Steve C406
My headlights and tail light/brake lights work but the orange running lights and turning signals ( as well as the hazards) do not work. Has any only experienced a similar issue?
Thanks,
steve C
Re: running lights turn signal
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:12 pm
by NEWFISHER
I thought the front thrn signals were only " turn signals" and not combo running lights? I need to read through the schematic again.
Re: running lights turn signal
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:20 pm
by undysworld
Stupid question hopefully, but you have checked for a tripped breaker, I assume?
Re: running lights turn signal
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:37 pm
by David Dunn
Steve C406 wrote:My headlights and tail light/brake lights work but the orange running lights and turning signals ( as well as the hazards) do not work. Has any only experienced a similar issue?
Thanks,
steve C
If you have a Swiss spec'ed Pinz ( circuit breakers no fuses), your brake lamps and turn indicators were combined originally, and some one has re-wired it along the way.
But as Paul said, check the breakers.
Re: running lights turn signal
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:47 pm
by NEWFISHER
This is what I have learned on my Pinz, the wiring diagram indicates the front outer amber lights are turn signal only. There is a hazard switch and hazard flasher on the left of the steering column. Have you tested these?
Re: running lights turn signal
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:26 pm
by Steve C406
The breakers have not been tripped....I assume that that it is ok since my break lights work. Right? I have tried to turn on hazards but nothing. could be as simple as the switch. What about the signal handle it looks like there is a circuit board (of a type) inside this.
Re: running lights turn signal
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:43 pm
by rmel
Might be your flasher, it would be a common point of failure for turn and hazard.
You could try metering around the terminals to see if you have 24V on the proper
terminals, if you do try bypassing it to see if the turn signals are hard on. SAV
has a replacement unit, that I believe are solid state -- they work a whole lot
better esp. if you upgrade to LED signal lights.
Re: running lights turn signal
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:09 am
by undysworld
Steve,
I'm not exactly sure what you're saying, but I'll try and make sense of it as best I can. Here's how I read it:
Steve C406 wrote:The breakers have not been tripped....I assume that that it is ok since my break lights work. Right?
If you're assuming that the breakers have not been tripped because your brake lights work, it may not be a safe assumption.
In case you haven't already done so, just push each breaker in again and see what happens. Like Dave wrote, things could be wired weird.
Steve C406 wrote: I have tried to turn on hazards but nothing. could be as simple as the switch.
Sure. Or a loose wire connector, defective flasher, bad bulbs all around, etc. Some of these may actually be easier to repair than the switch. But since more than the directionals are effected, the turn signal switch wouldn't necessarily be my first suspect.
Steve C406 wrote:What about the signal handle it looks like there is a circuit board (of a type) inside this.
There is a thread on here somewhere about disassembling the directional switch for repair. But I wouldn't go diving in there unless the switch tests bad and you
need to.
I think you might be better off with a voltmeter and start measuring where you have voltage, and more importantly,
where you lose it. An ohmmeter will allow you to determine whether you have a bad ground. If you have voltage to the lamp/s and a good ground, the lamp/s will light. Do you own a multi-meter, and know how to use it?
Re: running lights turn signal
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:54 am
by Steve C406
Thanks for all the help! I will get out the volt meter and start there. Stand by for the results
Re: running lights turn signal
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:56 am
by rmel
In addition to the Pinz schematic, you might find these standard Flasher and Hazard terminal definitions useful
for tracing out and metering things.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_72552. Yup Puch did follow standards
