Who here has bead balanced tires? If so, what did you use?
I'm in the market for new tires, and the Trxus MT 265/75-R16s are what I'm probably going to go with. I need a tire close to the original height of the originals.
Bead Balancing Tires
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Bead Balancing Tires
Kimball
1979 712M
1979 712M
bead balanced tires
I've got bead balancing in my Trxus MT 265/75's and it's worked pretty well. I've heard that it can get to not work well if much moisture gets in, as the medium can clump together, but no problems on mine. I think that my tires could use just a bit more than the recommended 4.5oz per tire as I do have a minor vibration at 65-70 MPH, but that is not a huge deal since I don't typically drive that fast -even when on long trips.
One thing I read on other forums is that Trxus tires can be a challenge to keep balanced. With the beads moving around to where they need to go, it should help.
One thing I read on other forums is that Trxus tires can be a challenge to keep balanced. With the beads moving around to where they need to go, it should help.
bead balancing
There are several methods of balancing tires, I chose to remove the lead weights from my rims as they are 'lead' for one and the other is that during off road use the little buggers come off, what use then? Also they are on the rim which is a long way from the tread of the tire.
The beads ride against the outside of the tire,, close to the tread making for better balancing. Using the ceramic beads does not cause them to clump when moisture may be present. I cannot use the 'fix-a-flat' goop as it will cause a clump. Special valve cores are required though, the beads are very small and will cet caught in a conventional valve core insert.
I have been using them for about 15,000 miles and have noticed no adverse effects. I have driven from San Diego to Seattle three times and I am pleased with the little beads.
Also, I do not have to continually have the tires balanced professionally as they wear. I have Mudterrain tires 33inch.
Cheers,
Morris 710M
The beads ride against the outside of the tire,, close to the tread making for better balancing. Using the ceramic beads does not cause them to clump when moisture may be present. I cannot use the 'fix-a-flat' goop as it will cause a clump. Special valve cores are required though, the beads are very small and will cet caught in a conventional valve core insert.
I have been using them for about 15,000 miles and have noticed no adverse effects. I have driven from San Diego to Seattle three times and I am pleased with the little beads.
Also, I do not have to continually have the tires balanced professionally as they wear. I have Mudterrain tires 33inch.
Cheers,
Morris 710M
Re: bead balanced tires
Where did each of you purchase your beads?
As a side note, are the 265/75s about the same height as the originals?JKarber wrote:I've got bead balancing in my Trxus MT 265/75's and it's worked pretty well.
Kimball
1979 712M
1979 712M
Good day all, 
I have both, the 265/75-16 and they are beads balanced.
The tire are 0.09 inches higher than the original and they are a very nice fit and as close from the original as it gets.
I had a tire bead come off in a river not long ago,
after changing the flat I got home and took the tire off carefully and let the beads and the tire dry off for two days. After I put back everything together and it all works fine now. So much for moisture in the tire. I have found out too, that when the balancing looks like it is not right, I lift the wheel off the ground and I spin it while hammering the tread of the tire.
Beads balancing do the job for me and I will go that way for sure on my next tire set.
Denis
I have both, the 265/75-16 and they are beads balanced.
The tire are 0.09 inches higher than the original and they are a very nice fit and as close from the original as it gets.
I had a tire bead come off in a river not long ago,
after changing the flat I got home and took the tire off carefully and let the beads and the tire dry off for two days. After I put back everything together and it all works fine now. So much for moisture in the tire. I have found out too, that when the balancing looks like it is not right, I lift the wheel off the ground and I spin it while hammering the tread of the tire. Beads balancing do the job for me and I will go that way for sure on my next tire set.
Denis
I have been using the balancing beads in my 285/75 B. F. Goodrich
All-Terrains for two years and I would never go back to wheel weights!
The vibration that I originally attributed to an unbalanced front driveshaft
is gone and there is absolutely no cupping or other unusual wear on the tires.
I use 6 oz. of beads per tire. Beads are available from Innovative Balancing
(http://www.innovativebalancing.com/). Not very expensive. Be sure to get the
filtered valve cores!
I like the beads so much that I recently sold my wheel balance adapter.
All-Terrains for two years and I would never go back to wheel weights!
The vibration that I originally attributed to an unbalanced front driveshaft
is gone and there is absolutely no cupping or other unusual wear on the tires.
I use 6 oz. of beads per tire. Beads are available from Innovative Balancing
(http://www.innovativebalancing.com/). Not very expensive. Be sure to get the
filtered valve cores!
I like the beads so much that I recently sold my wheel balance adapter.
Jay
W3PNZ
710K Kommandowagen
W3PNZ
710K Kommandowagen
balancing beads
Kimbal,
The real interesting part of the job will be getting the beads in the tire. You can take one side off the rim or put them through the valve with the little 'kit' they sell. I did it through the valve but if I ever do it again I will open the tire. I got an extra bag of beads for the spare as well. 6.5 oz per the chart but after talking to the guy at Inovative I got the 8 oz per tire beads.
I added up the weights that were originally on my tires and it was about 14 to 18 oz per tire, and they were on both sides of the rim, that seemed like a lot of lead to me.
Cheers,
Morris 710M
The real interesting part of the job will be getting the beads in the tire. You can take one side off the rim or put them through the valve with the little 'kit' they sell. I did it through the valve but if I ever do it again I will open the tire. I got an extra bag of beads for the spare as well. 6.5 oz per the chart but after talking to the guy at Inovative I got the 8 oz per tire beads.
I added up the weights that were originally on my tires and it was about 14 to 18 oz per tire, and they were on both sides of the rim, that seemed like a lot of lead to me.
Cheers,
Morris 710M
Beads purchase
I bought my beads at a non-chain local shop here in Wichita KS called Shamrock tire.
As far as the profile of the tire -it is extremely close to stock height. I didn't do any measurements, but it appears that I have slightly more roof to ceiling clearance in the garage that I park in. I haven't noticed any reduction of speed on the highway and can still exceed 70 MPH in my 710 without triggering the overrev light, which works for me since I keep it below that anyway. As for the clearance, it may be due to some extra "squish" of the tires. The 265's seem to work nicely on the stock rims, and I haven't had any rubbing that I've noticed. It's nice to have tires that I can air down a little when I want a little better footprint and less harsh ride off road.
As far as the profile of the tire -it is extremely close to stock height. I didn't do any measurements, but it appears that I have slightly more roof to ceiling clearance in the garage that I park in. I haven't noticed any reduction of speed on the highway and can still exceed 70 MPH in my 710 without triggering the overrev light, which works for me since I keep it below that anyway. As for the clearance, it may be due to some extra "squish" of the tires. The 265's seem to work nicely on the stock rims, and I haven't had any rubbing that I've noticed. It's nice to have tires that I can air down a little when I want a little better footprint and less harsh ride off road.
Believe it or not, I bought the tires themselves from the tire store, but they weren't able to balance them properly with their machine (the hub isn't centric, and their adapter fingers don't go out to the pattern of the Pinz). Overall I was happy with the service from them (good price and friendly service) -but I figure they thought I didn't have my facts down on the balancing.
Before I purchaced, I read that the Interco brand is fairly notorious for being difficult to get and keep balanced and taking a lot of weight to do so, but after looking over all of the pro's and cons (I had no idea how much tire choice is a compromise balancing good characteristics with the bad) -it was my choice.
As far as amount used, there is a chart that has a recommended amount for a given tire size. I suspect that the chart is based on more ordinary street tires which generally balance better to begin with. The remaining vibration that I have is pretty minor, but the beads worked so well compared to what I have had, I figure that I might as well as pursue getting it completely right. Based on some of the others comments, it sounds like there are several running more weight than I am, and works well for them.
Before I purchaced, I read that the Interco brand is fairly notorious for being difficult to get and keep balanced and taking a lot of weight to do so, but after looking over all of the pro's and cons (I had no idea how much tire choice is a compromise balancing good characteristics with the bad) -it was my choice.
As far as amount used, there is a chart that has a recommended amount for a given tire size. I suspect that the chart is based on more ordinary street tires which generally balance better to begin with. The remaining vibration that I have is pretty minor, but the beads worked so well compared to what I have had, I figure that I might as well as pursue getting it completely right. Based on some of the others comments, it sounds like there are several running more weight than I am, and works well for them.
I put trxus 265/r75 16 tires with dynabeads on my 710 a few weeks ago it was fairly smooth up to 50mph,then it shook like crazy so decided to add 2 more oz per tire bringing it up to 7 oz. As I was adding the beads discovered that my tire shop had left the lead balancing weights on the inside of the rims also they did not use the filtered cores I gave them,after removing the weights and adding additional beads my pinz rides much smoother, now just have to order more filtered cores. That being said they are a good product just be careful who installs them.