Diesel into a pinz - when and if we can do that

[Jerbearyukon]

Just checking. I thought I heard somewhere that you couldn't get a diesel until Jan1 2009 - is that true.

Jer Bear

[David Dunn]

Canada is 15 years for importing gray market vehicles, the US is 25.
There is very little in common between the gas and diesel Pinzes... about as much in common as the old and new VW bugs

[Heed]

Yes, it is 15 years for Canada. (...but I'd take less Draconian gun laws for a 25 year rule...wanna trade?)

On the Turbo Diesel Forum, "Torchd" posted in regards to some 1992's, JerBear. That would make us eligible.

I PM'ed him but didn't get a reply.

[Jerbearyukon]

I was looking for some better fuel economy mostly. With the 20 gallon tank it doesn't give me much range here. Our fuel stations are very close either and I can barely make it to most places in one tank here.

Then you drive up north and head for the bush you better have a whack of jerry cans

Jer Bear

[David Dunn]

I was looking for some better fuel economy mostly.
Jer Bear

Well, don't look at the Pinz diesel for that....SDP published ecomony figure for the 2.4TD is 16 mpg. It is the same engine that Volvo used in their cars, with claims in the mid 20s mpg. I've seen 14 to 16 for The Pink Cow.

[krick3tt]

I just returned from NWMF in Sheridan. Great time. I left home with a full tank, used the four jerry cans (20 gal) and filled up when we got back (13.9 gal), trip of 528 miles gave me 15.6 mpg. I am happy with that. Even pulling the little trailer it did ok for me.
I am wondering if the 2.7L conversion will change that mpg much.

Morris

[AZ_Dave]

trip of 528 miles gave me 15.6 mpg. I am happy with that. Even pulling the little trailer it did ok for me.
I am wondering if the 2.7L conversion will change that mpg much.

Morris

That's not really too bad considering my little 02 nissan pickup gets about 16 mpg combined highway/city.

as far as bigger trucks go I wouldn't really hope to get anything really outstanding. Maybe if you put really little wheels on it but what would the point in that be? seems like the guys with EFI are improving their gas mileage a little but they're expensive.

Thanks David Dunn for that info on the diesel's fuel economy I had been wondering about that. The one thing I would like a diesel for though would be to see how it runs when converted to run on used vegetable oil. I guess some diesels are more suited to this than others but don't know much about it other than that so don't really know if this would be feasible, but it would make the gas a lot cheaper even if it does make your truck smell like a fast food joint.

When were the first diesels made?

Anyone hear of any Europeans trying the cooking oil conversion on one?

[Pinz Enthusiast]

I get great milage in my 712m, an average of 18.65mpg on the highway, only engin mod it the civi ignition and synthetic oil, oh and thanks to the messiah I check the air in my tires regularly and keep them at 65psi for the highway, offroad I run 15 to 20psi and average 12mpg and thats usually loaded with up to 13 passengers, I like MOrris was thinking about the 2.7 aswell.

[Anthony]

The early Pinzgauer 716/718 were not known for their frugality. Still it would be interesting to run one of the older diesel Pinzgauers alongside of the a similar petrol one on the same trip and see how they come out. My guess is that their would be more of a difference.

[AZ_Dave]

I get great milage in my 712m, an average of 18.65mpg on the highway, only engin mod it the civi ignition and synthetic oil, oh and thanks to the messiah I check the air in my tires regularly and keep them at 65psi for the highway, offroad I run 15 to 20psi and average 12mpg and thats usually loaded with up to 13 passengers, I like MOrris was thinking about the 2.7 aswell.

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That might be great gas mileage for a pinz, but Chevy Suburbans with a big v8 can easily get this and better it at pinz speeds. That's about average for trucks that size.

The best thing you can do for range jerbear is to get a bigger tank if you have that much trouble with range. Tire pressure and tuning can only do so much. If it's not really out of tune or run on low tire pressure, that's probably your best bet.

[cronapress]

Just a bit curious about putting 65psi in the tyres for highway running. My book says 2.0bar (29psi) for unladen use - which mine generally is.

Even at that, my 712m can be a bit "twitchy" at the back end if it's smooth wet tarmac on a decent bend.

Surely at 65psi you've haven't got much rubber actually touching the road ? More economical I grant you, but .....................

Maybe I've missed something here ??


Mike.
Scotland.

[mjnims]

the tire pressure recommendation in the book was for the bias ply original tires. You should be following the tire manufacturers recommended pressure on your tires for highway use. When I had the Trxxus on my 712 I ran 52lbs and it hanle very well. The steering and the gas mileage is also greatly improved with the higher tire pressures along with less tire wear.

[Pinz Enthusiast]

Yes I second what Mike says about tire pressure listed in the book, I am running Super Swamper TSL Radials, LT 265/80R16 max cold pressure is 65psi, like Mikes Traxxus they are very sticky on the pavement, I take curvey mountain roads at 10 to 20mph over posted speed limits and it corners like a pool table on rails, flat and not even a hint of lean or a feeling that the rear end might break loose.

[Profpinz]

Interesting Eric....You run a lot higher pressures on road than I do.
(Everybody has their own specific ideas and requirements )

I run my Simex ET's on-road with 30 psi in the rear and 38 psi in the front.
For mild off-roading I drop the rear to 16 psi and the front to about 25 psi.
In severe off-road conditions I run the rear at between 5 - 8 psi and the front at about 12 - 16 psi.

[krick3tt]

I run about 40 psi in all the tires. I had tubes installed as I was getting a bit of bead leak on two tires and was constantly filling them up. I know they are supposed to be tubeless but tubes are small (inexpensive) insurance. I also use balancing beads instead of lead weights.

Morris