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scotruck · Post by **scotruck** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:22 pm

Hello to you all ,ive just registered on your forum after a long period of silently reading all your posts, its a great hive of information.
I have owned various 4x4s Toyotas, mitsubishi, suzukis and currently drive a land rover defender .All going well i will get myself a pinzgauer as a direct replacement for the defender . I will use it as a daily driver and for hunting , camping and general load lugging for my house build.
Not sure if a 4x4 or 6x6 would best meet my needs , 6x6 looks real roomy .

Cheers
Kenny

andy · Post by **andy** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:01 pm

Welcome, I have used both my 710 and my 712 for hunting. Either will work fine and the only real consideration I have is if the length of the 712 will impact on where I want to go.

For me the 712 offers a smoother ride, but more often than not, is harder to turn tightly. Add the front diff locked and it borders on unpleasent.

On the other hand there is the extra space in back. Usually not a major consideration for me since the space behind the steering wheel is the same on both.

The slightly lower gearing on the 712 comes in handy for me as does the load carrying capacity. An extra half ton of feed sometimes means I don't have to mess with the trailer.

Either truck will do what you need and both are wheelbarrows of fun.

Cheers,

Andy

Jerbearyukon · Post by **Jerbearyukon** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:48 am

I have a 710 K model...love it. For a daily commuter and hunting and fishing and just basically doing things that most ppll can't it's very cool.

I will be looking for a 712 in the new year though

Jer bear

scotruck · Post by **scotruck** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:58 pm

Hi thanks for your replys , im sorry i didnt answer you but i havent been on the PC as it has been in bits , working now though .Do you think the pinz is as good off road as the defender when you take into consideration the landrovers articulation, also is it true that they are a bit unstable on side slopes?
I appologise if these questions have been asked before

Cheers

Kenny

cronapress · Post by **cronapress** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:16 am

Hi Kenny and welcome. There are a few Pinzs north of the border. Your best contact by far if wanting help, info. or indeed to investigate buying one is Dale at Haflinger Technik in Lanark. He will help you out and is a 100% honest guy. I don't know of any other dealer that is so open and friendly. (I'm not on commision either!)

I previously had a 710M and now own a 712M. As has previously been said the 712 has more carrying capacity, beit goods or bodies. It gives a smoother ride too. Both are IMHO better on the rough stuff than a Defender. On moorland/boggy stuff (maybe applicable in your case) the Pinz will plug through stuff that the LR will founder in. The diff locks are a Godsend.

It helps if you have the ability to do your own servicing etc. They are labour intensive in that area but VERY satisfying to work on.

I think a guy from north of Perth is coming south to the Scottish Borders for a Pinz gathering/on-off road/rally (organised by Dale) early March. Might be a good intro. ??

Good Luck.

scotruck · Post by **scotruck** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:23 am

Thanks for that , i have already been in touch with Dale and he seems a fine bloke , i just havent managed to get down to see him yet.
When you say labour intensive what are you talking about in terns of time tinkering with it . Do you use yours daily?
The gathering in March sounds interesting .
Cheers

cronapress · Post by **cronapress** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:32 am

Glad you made contact with Dale. He has the details of the Pinz meet. (7th/8th Mar. based at Peebles and radiating out into the hills). He will elaborate. You will be made most welcome !

On the maintenance front, nothing teetering on rocket science. Lots of gear boxes to keep topped up. (Expensive noises if you don't). A couple of good old fashioned grease points etc. Comes under "General Pottering" in my book. They are designed and made with servicing in mind ie. commonsense engineering. Get a good one, look after it as per the book and it should give years of service and FUN ! The latter is the important bit.

I tend to use mine a couple of times a week - general road useage. Once or twice a month I take it up to a Mountain Bothy I look after. Lumpy, steep tracks with river crossing to clean its belly ! A fairly gentle, easy life compared to some Pinzs. There again I'd like it to last. Previously had a Haf. which lasted 30yrs - just!

Cheers.

scotruck · Post by **scotruck** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:27 am

Sounds like they are not any worse than land rovers for pottering type maintenance.Can you have a conversation and listen to music while driving or is it just too noisey?
The bothy sounds great.

cronapress · Post by **cronapress** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:28 am

With the engine sitting alongside you, they are noisier than your average LR. Conversation-wise, I would say a "raised voice" - not shouting, would be a fair description. The transmission whine is my music !! You might have to turn the wick up a bit on the radio/CD player !

Thomas-E · Post by **Thomas-E** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:01 pm

Kenny

[quote]All going well i will get myself a pinzgauer as a direct replacement for the defender . I will use it as a daily driver and for hunting , camping and general load lugging for my house build.
Not sure if a 4x4 or 6x6 would best meet my needs , 6x6 looks real roomy .
[/quote]
I have a 712m and like the 3 m. bed length for hauling, also I've carried a 1400 kg load of pavers up a fairly steep grade without any problems.
Currently we're building a slide on camper for it. Bed, sink, stove top, fridge and storage. Plan to use it on weekends.

[quote]Do you think the pinz is as good off road as the defender when you take into consideration the landrovers articulation, also is it true that they are a bit unstable on side slopes? [/quote]
I haven't done any steep side slopes but the additional axle does smooth things out a bit.

[quote]It helps if you have the ability to do your own servicing etc. They
are labour intensive in that area but VERY satisfying to work on. [/quote]
I use mine almost daily and do a little offroad. Adjust brakes, check fluids, and do the schedule servicing. Not much trouble at all. Lots better than my old VW bus!

Best wishes to you

Tom E.
Sonora, CA
712m

scotruck · Post by **scotruck** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:34 am

Sounds like the 712 is the ultimate machine for what im going to do ,but im just not sure about the practicality of a 6x6 on a day to day basis.
hmmm time will tell , maybe when i get to see one properly my mind will be made .

Cheers
Kenny

ScottishPinz · Post by **ScottishPinz** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:55 am

The 6x6 is no longer than a LR discovery, the 4x4 is tiny by todays big car and 4x4's standards, especially in width!

scotruck · Post by **scotruck** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:25 pm

Thanks for the flyer re PPP, if im at home i will come along for a look , are land rovers allowed to partake ?For some reason i thought the 6x6 would be a lot bigger than that.

ScottishPinz · Post by **ScottishPinz** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:29 pm

I'm sure anyone interested in Pinzgauers would be welcome, just give Dale a call. We'll be there with the 710K.

scotruck · Post by **scotruck** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:34 pm

Great , i will do,hope to meet you then.

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