Insulation ?

scotruck · Post by **scotruck** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:24 pm

Not sure if this has been asked before but is it possible to insulate the canvas top on a 710 / 712 to a decent level to allow camping in winter time ?

Thanks in advance

Profpinz · Post by **Profpinz** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:14 pm

There used to be a very nice insulated top available for Pinzgauers .....it may be still around.
No need for insulation against the cold here at the moment..... 39C (102F) a few days ago and this week is expected to go 40+

Heed · Post by **Heed** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:07 pm

Scotruck,

These look to be great insulated tops, and I'm told that several guys on the forum have them. The trouble would be shipping cost to Scotland.

http://www.tuffriverstuff.com/pinzgauer.htm

They are in the neighbourhood of $2500 USD

Profpinz · Post by **Profpinz** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:34 pm

Those are the tops I was thinking of!

andy · Post by **andy** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:35 pm

The $2500 USD may not be as bad as it sounds considering a new top for a 712 is $1600 USD.

Andy

PS....Peter, please feel free to send some of your temps over here. We are looking at 1 or 2 degrees C tonight. At least it will be close to 70F tomorrow. Oh, and if you have some spare rain (fat chance huh?) send it along too.

Profpinz · Post by **Profpinz** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:50 pm

G'Day Andy, heat, you can have as much as you like....I'II see how much I can stuff in an A4 envelope (insulated of course) and send it over!

Rain....we are down to the last dregs as is.
We are on what they call 3A restrictions....basically it's the one just before the restriction when you can't water the garden or wash the car at all and a lot of factories that use water have to stop....the Government is trying to avoid "4" as long possible.
Victoria is currently build a de-salinization plant.... but the greenies are up in arms!

Go figure!

As regards the Pinzgauer top, some years ago I investigated an insulated, "under blanket" that would be custom cut, to fit ontop of the bars, but under the original canvas.
I was talking to an aircraft interior fitter .... I liked the idea because it kept the original look/top whilst providing better protection/insulation.
The material was quilted, somewhat like you see on interior/cargo areas of helicopters etc.
It was relatively cheap compared to a complete top.
I never did go ahead, but it is filed away in my "to-do" list

McCall Pinz · Post by **McCall Pinz** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:16 pm

I haven't tried winter camping in this, but here are some pictures of my insulated top- http://picasaweb.google.com/wayndar/PinzInsulatedTop#. Like ProfPinz, this one is an interior liner under the stock material. In the states this material is available as "foil faced radiant insulation" and is about 3/8" thick foam with a polished aluminum surface. I had an 8' wide roll left over from building my home. In the pictures, the white side is in, but for winter use, it should be foil side in to conserve heat inside. It cuts down on noise too. If you're really looking to insulate it, then pay attention to the rear gate and run the insulation down far enough to seal it up tight since the top leaves a gap there.

scotruck · Post by **scotruck** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:16 pm

Thanks for all your input , the foil backed insulation looks like an economical solution to the problem (canny Scot)

Pinz Enthusiast · Post by **Pinz Enthusiast** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:33 pm

Scotruck,

Don't know if you can get this on that side of the pond, but it has worked great for me for 3 1/2 years now, here is a link to the post with pictures of my truck. http://real4x4forums.com/PinzgauerBBS/v ... ght=#19662, lately when I am up in Big Bear it usually hovers around 20 to 40 degrees F. and just the stock heater does a great job of keeping things warm, I have installed an eberspacher B3LC heater and wow as Dennis from Linden told I could almost bake bread in the truck, takes about 10 minutes or less to make the whole truck nice and tosty warm.....

Good Luck

psychoman · Post by **psychoman** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:02 pm

scotruck wrote:Thanks for all your input , the foil backed insulation looks like an economical solution to the problem (canny Scot)

Hi

If you find a good source for this stuff in the UK can you let me know, as I want to do something very similar for the back of my 712M.

Thanks!

McCall Pinz · Post by **McCall Pinz** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:39 pm

PS- if you you're looking to keep it as warm as possible then don't cut the windows out or make overlapping flaps for the windows to create a lapped seal when closed. Also, keep the cab divider to seal that area off. My newest addition is also a weatherstrip along the side of the body to tighten the closure with the top.

Profpinz · Post by **Profpinz** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:27 pm

My newest addition is also a weatherstrip along the side of the body to tighten the closure with the top

I like "leaks" .... Leaks/gaps are great for getting a breeze through when it's hot!

krick3tt · Post by **krick3tt** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:50 pm

Wayne,

Really like your insulation job. Where can that stuff be purchaced? It is not something I have ever seen before.
I tried using an area rug that I got at WalMart, green and black, for under the rear canopy part of the 710M, your idea looks better.

Morris

McCall Pinz · Post by **McCall Pinz** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:31 pm

Hi Morris, I found the insulation several years ago when building my house through a solar/green build company. Since then it's readily available online as "foil faced radiant barrier". Mine uses a white flexible foam and the foil face. White-side in looks better, but in theory the foil side should be in to reflect heat back in during the winter. ProfPinz you should leave the foil side out to avoid being baked!

Profpinz · Post by **Profpinz** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:49 am

ProfPinz you should leave the foil side out to avoid being baked!

Smart thinking...Shall do!