Wooden side rails 712M (Rub Rails)
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Wooden side rails 712M (Rub Rails)
Hi can anyone help.
I have purchased a 712M but the wooden side rails which run along the body are missing. I intend to replace them but would like to make sure they match the factory spec. Does anyone know what timber the originals are made from and does anyone have a sketch or drawing of a cross section of the rail.
I have purchased a 712M but the wooden side rails which run along the body are missing. I intend to replace them but would like to make sure they match the factory spec. Does anyone know what timber the originals are made from and does anyone have a sketch or drawing of a cross section of the rail.
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It's got to be "original"? You have a ton of options if that's not a hang up. Thilo Kass sells some made out of TREX material but they don't paint well.
A buddy fabricated some for me out of U shaped steel that are SERIOUSLY beefy and one of the guys in the SWPA also has a cool solution to replace them but also in steel.
But if you need to go OEM then so be it....
A buddy fabricated some for me out of U shaped steel that are SERIOUSLY beefy and one of the guys in the SWPA also has a cool solution to replace them but also in steel.
But if you need to go OEM then so be it....

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Tibb:
Found this sketch:
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/kAUQS_Ejhh ... nsions.jpg
Changed to correct link 11/27/09 (again)
It does not give the length or type of wood. I just took mine off to sand & refinish. I will let you know what type of wood I "think" it is after they are stripped.
Regards, Kevin
Found this sketch:
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/kAUQS_Ejhh ... nsions.jpg
Changed to correct link 11/27/09 (again)
It does not give the length or type of wood. I just took mine off to sand & refinish. I will let you know what type of wood I "think" it is after they are stripped.
Regards, Kevin
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I really beat up one side of mine on a rock and replaced them with metal channel. I was going to attach a carrier on the top and use them to support it but changed my mind as it would not fit in the garage if I did so. There is a view of the rails on this shot.
http://s400.photobucket.com/albums/pp88 ... 3362-1.jpg
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http://s400.photobucket.com/albums/pp88 ... 3362-1.jpg
Morris
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rubrails
I really beat up one side of mine on a rock and replaced them with metal channel. I was going to attach a carrier on the top and use them to support it but changed my mind as it would not fit in the garage if I did so. There is a view of the rails on this shot.
http://s400.photobucket.com/albums/pp88 ... 3362-1.jpg
Morris
http://s400.photobucket.com/albums/pp88 ... 3362-1.jpg
Morris
Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him:
better take a closer look at the American Indian.---Henry Ford
better take a closer look at the American Indian.---Henry Ford
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Tibbermore,
I replaced the rails on my first 712 and used some old green-treated lumber. The wood was salvaged from an old deck, so the wood was a few years old. I cut up a nice 2x12 that was all clear (no knots for non-carpenters). It cut great, and it took a coat of black paint really nicely.
That truck's still in town, George owns it, so I've seen it for the past 7-8 yrs. and they've held up great.
My current truck's got rails that were made for Patrick at CWR, and they don't seem to have the same profile at the ends. The original was over 45 degrees, so it was a bitch of a cut to make. They took the lazy way out and cut 'em at 45.
I can give you dimensions from my current truck, or go over and measure the George's, in case nobody else chimes in here with the actual dimensions. PM me if you can't get the answer.
Paul
I replaced the rails on my first 712 and used some old green-treated lumber. The wood was salvaged from an old deck, so the wood was a few years old. I cut up a nice 2x12 that was all clear (no knots for non-carpenters). It cut great, and it took a coat of black paint really nicely.
That truck's still in town, George owns it, so I've seen it for the past 7-8 yrs. and they've held up great.
My current truck's got rails that were made for Patrick at CWR, and they don't seem to have the same profile at the ends. The original was over 45 degrees, so it was a bitch of a cut to make. They took the lazy way out and cut 'em at 45.
I can give you dimensions from my current truck, or go over and measure the George's, in case nobody else chimes in here with the actual dimensions. PM me if you can't get the answer.
Paul
Tim's side rails in either model are about the only ones that I would consider. Many lift points and it is nice to have something I can actually walk on when storing items on the top racks. I have used mine far more times than I can recount on my 710 and my 712. Those who know me and what I have done with the trucks will tell you the only reason my trucks are still in great shape is because of the armor package that is on both of them.
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I made a set out of Cedar, Thay are working well, and don't rot. Loco
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His website is www.mogsrus.com and his number is 928-443-8880.
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1974 712M - sold
1973 710M - sold
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1974 712M - sold
1973 710M - sold
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Rub rails
I just picked up my new rub rails today. I had them milled to match the original ones that were found on my 712M. They REALLY look GREAT! Everthing, including the previously mentioned angles on the ends that should NOT be cut at 45 degrees, seems to be perfect and match the originals to a tee! I was told that the original ones were oak, so I had the new ones done in oak, as well. Can anyone confirm that oak is the correct original material used? Anyhow, if anyone is interested, I would be happy to post pictures of my newly finished (and so far, unpainted) rub rails. If there's any interest, I was thinking about having more of them made and selling them to the interested parties. Let me know if anyone is interested... -Jon
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I've thought that these would look nice if they were clean and varnished. Are you going to paint yours Jon or "make them pretty"?
David
David
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1974 712M - sold
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1974 712M - sold
1973 710M - sold
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I'm not really sure yet... They look pretty cool as is (unpainted, with the natural oak grain), but probably wouldn't last that long w/out some sort of paint or stain. I kind of like the look of my Pinzgauer w/ the satin black epoxy primer. It kind of has a 2-tone paint scheme going on w/ a few parts still in green (like the soft top) and the rest in black. I'm thinking a green rub rail would look cool on the black background. We'll see!texas pinzgauer wrote:I've thought that these would look nice if they were clean and varnished. Are you going to paint yours Jon or "make them pretty"?
David