Rare 710ms 4x4 ambulance pinzgauer

milan · Post by **milan** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:54 pm

Hello,
I am new on this forum, and think that is polite to write something about me. I am from Montenegro, ex YUGOSLAVIA, and I have two, for now, pinzgauers. One is 710m, and second one iz very rare 710 ms ambulance produced in 1985 for Yugoslavian Army.
Could you guys give me some information about your expirience with that 710ms.
For now I have no posibility to post some pictures of my pinz, but I found few of German pinz 710ms.
http://pinzforum.kiruna.de/viewtopic.ph ... 745cd2080b

Twin Pinzies · Post by **Twin Pinzies** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:00 pm

That picture is a 710K, not a 710M. And by the way, the model you are referring to is called a 710 AMB.

Erik712m · Post by **Erik712m** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:53 pm

√That picture is a 710K, not a 710M. And by the way, the model you are referring to is called a 710 AMB.

no its an ms nice looking one at that. Scott made up one not to long ago.

Jim LaGuardia · Post by **Jim LaGuardia** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:08 pm

Basically it is a 710M platform with a K hard top(no rear side doors). I am currently in the process of building one for a client

McCall Pinz · Post by **McCall Pinz** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:40 pm

Welcome to the forum. Please post pictures of your Pinz when you can. Most of the Pinzguaers in the US are Swiss surplus so we really only see 710M and K and 712M. Is yours more like the Austrian or Swiss versions?

David Dunn · Post by **David Dunn** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:48 am

As Jim said, it is a M platform with a K top.
The official designation from the 710/712 manual is 710 AMB-Y.
With the introduction of the 716/718 series, the designation would be a MK, for 3 door platform with a hardtop.

The yellow truck pictured has typical Austrian headlamp guards, but the front indicators and rear tail lamps are not standard to any of the 710/12 or 716/18 models ( the tail lamps are not TDs)

710S and 710MS are Scott's own designations for his buildups ( besides, I had already coined the Plnk Cow as 716KM

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Erik712m · Post by **Erik712m** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:14 am

710S and 710MS are Scott's own designations for his buildups ( besides, I had already coined the Plnk Cow as 716KM )

If Scott want's them called s and ms I'll call them s and ms. Just ordered copper washers and brake cap cover showed up two days later

ExpeditionImports · Post by **ExpeditionImports** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:23 am

What are you guys smoking? 710MS? I have no idea where that came from. We have built and coined the phrase 710S = 710 Special, but that is it. 710S refers to a 5 door softop 710. Take a 710K, remove hardtop, install factory rollbars and custom canvas and you get our 710S. (No rocket science involved here.)

Cheers,

Scott Ingham

Profpinz · Post by **Profpinz** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:12 am

Can't say, I've ever come across any other standard factory "designations" (for volume production runs) for air-cooled vehicles other that those listed here:

710: http://users.bigpond.net.au/profpinz/pi ... es_710.htm

712: http://users.bigpond.net.au/profpinz/pi ... ls_712.htm

TD's have more of a range (direct from the factory):

716: http://users.bigpond.net.au/profpinz/pi ... es_716.htm

718: http://users.bigpond.net.au/profpinz/pi ... ls_718.htm

David Dunn · Post by **David Dunn** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:58 pm

Hey Peter
The 718-AMB- Y is in the SDP owners manual ( for all practical purposes, the same config as the later (716)MK)
You also need to go back and edit your 716 page.... you have some 716s listed as 718FW, and 718Short ( now THAT is a oxymoron!)

I personally think that 716KM should be added to the list

.... orrrrr, if you like 716DAVE

humbly submitted
Dave

Erik712m · Post by **Erik712m** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:29 pm

Peter, Is that a complete list? I often see 712 flk listed in the UK for sale. Was there never a flk weapons transport produced buy the factory?

Profpinz · Post by **Profpinz** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:39 pm

Dave:
Ooop's a boo-boo!..... I'II have to modify that!

As regards the 718 AMB Y, it wasn't listed in SDP's "original" information, as a volume production item (As you say, it was basically a 3-door hardtop ambulance)....maybe they figured it was just an MK with stretcher racks

Erik... The original webpage list was compiled some years ago and doesn't include AT's later "additions" to the range!

Vehicles like the FLK "appear" to be a Army designation rather than a factory one, but I'm open to comments on this one!.
It's actually a good point: Did SDP produce it as is or was it modified by an outside company/contractor/supplier?
There is always some confusion as to factory versus military designations.
I'm only dealing with factory one on those webpages!

I will be updating all the info in my "new" webpage..... which will include AT's designations as well!
They have great ones, like "TUM 6X6 PSYOPS"

David Dunn · Post by **David Dunn** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:20 pm

Profpinz wrote:Dave:
Ooop's a boo-boo!..... I'II have to modify that!

As regards the 718 AMB Y, it wasn't listed in SDP's "original" information, as a volume production item

Oops, I'm bad, it should have been 710 AMB-Y.... you got 6x6s on your mind, I got Turbo Diesels on mine

I need to check the date of the manual...
What drew me to the Pinz originally, was the way that with "off the shelf" parts, you could make any configuration you wanted, much the same way as older LRs

Dave Dunn

McCall Pinz · Post by **McCall Pinz** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:50 pm

The original german poster of the MS link describes the 710MS as having a very limited run for the Balkans- maybe he's right.
Also, the 712 FLA (or sometimes 712 FlAK) is german for Anti-aircraft
http://www.airpower.at/fldiv/fla/P6090058.jpg
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... 46,SUNA:en

David Dunn · Post by **David Dunn** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:31 pm

Those are pics of Austrian 712T(without front rollbar or canvas) with a weapon platform added. A late model, telling from the use of TD tail lamps.MS might have been an early designation code , until SDP refined their own internal codes. all the other letters would be the military own designation, like Peter said.

Sort of like having a pickup truck with a slide-in camper.... still just a pickup.

IIRC, Sean had one or more of those platforms years ago, as a takeoff.